Copper Pipe Customs - CL175 Build Thread - THE TIGER! (DONE..for now. VIDEO!)

Wow. I watched the video and laughed out loud in disbelief! The bike sounds AWESOME!!! You're right it is very throaty and sounds great. The paint work looks right, the amber mini signals fit with the build, and the seat is sweet, too. The seat... Did you reshape that? It looks like it's narrow at the front and a bit wider at the back. (Gives her an hourglass figure, and who doesn't like curves?) Me Likey!!

Go ride the heck outta your beast. Very well done, indeed.

loudest143
 
Thanks a lot Loudest!!! I couldnt believe the sound myself - Thing sounds EXTRA awesome at WOT.

The seat, yesssir! The seat pan was cut on either side to contour the width of the frame, and then tacked back together. Its actually way more comfortable at that width with the rear set that when it was standard width.
 
Bump.

This project has been revived.

So since we last left you the bike has turned over hands to me the owner of the garage. Jfish has his zuki' and we work on it at the shop frequently. But we've also been working on getting the 175 to run properly. Once we failed at that i bought the bike off of him and freshened up the engine with some new seals and fixes to the camshaft timing. It was the whole one over.

Camchain, valve seals keepers bushings reseating, rings pistons clips, hardware, gaskets, carb dunk cleaning needles jets etc...

Hopefully jfish can provide some pics of the motor apart.


Earlier tonight I buttoned up my work and to my amazement, I was truly amazed, it fired up after two bumps of the starter.
Hooray.

Id like to try and pursue the vintage road racer for this motorbike. With that thought I bought the magnetic points breaker that eliminates the weighted advance. The magnetic snout replaces the advance unit setting the timing at full advance. I haven't installed it or know much about it thus far.

My question:
Does anyone run them on their street bike?
Can someone point me to the spec of how many degrees of advance there is on a 175?
How does it idle?
is the bike hard to start?

Also Ive seen the setup for an oil cooler plate for the cb350's... It sits over the oil slinger, replacing the stock plate, and is tapped into the high side of the oil return holes that drain back into the transmission/crank gears.

There were vintage versions of this setup.
http://www.ohiocaferacers.com/cb350CapMotor1.jpg

And this Frenchman makes a modern one.
http://teammotoach.jimdo.com/pieces/embrayage-%C3%A0-sec/

Does anyone know which hold in the 175's oil cover is the high pressure side...

Most of all this is a great forum, i never really read it jfish has told me bout alot, but after finally perusing. Thumbs up.
 
Man, I kinda forgot about this bike (sorry guys!)

I didn't get the chance to install the electronic ignition, so I can't really help with that. And my phone is messing up and can't follow the links......
 
generally a bike with a fixed full advance timing will idle poorly, will probably be harder to start, and the advance profile should be available in the shop manual for the model.
 
Re: Copper Pipe Customs - CL175 Build Thread - THE TIGER! (DONE..for now. VIDEO!

I talked with Bateman racing about this and he said that the guys he's sold them to for street use have had no problems with the advance. FWIW
 
Re: Copper Pipe Customs - CL175 Build Thread - THE TIGER! REDUX

Well here it is in a complete state. Now its time to paint and powder!

I've got a video of it uploading and ill post it when complete, not that its impressive...


I've got the glass mounted up, new carbs installed and the pertronix indexed in an assembled state.


I haven't wheeled jfishsolevibe down to see it run again, but I will soon.
 

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Yessss! Future best bike ever right here. Can't wait for you guys to see some of the details Alex engineered in to this bike. Post up a picture of that tach bracket dude!
 
I haven't decided on the fairings exact color scheme and layout. Id be welcome to suggestions.


I want to keep the tank and seat the vintage look and keep the stock colors .
Sunset Gold with black accents.


For the fairings, I like the 60's cb750 race scheme, but I'm unsure of what colors to use, and not dead set on it. I think a gold fairing may be too much.


http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/122_0401_1969_honda_cb750/photo_17.html



I do like this look, but my fairings aren't that style. I dont know how spliting lines will translate from the upper to the lower.


I was also thinking of a simple black on white.



The frame will be the the 'almost chrome' / aluminum color powder coat.


Id be welcome to suggestions.
 
that almost chrome is a nice powder, just watch your KV when you shoot it, nice to finally have a one shot chrome!
 
I've got the engine out for reconditioning. I'm waiting for that, and also to find someone to paint the fiberglass.

I also have the front fork tubes to get re chromed to get rid of the nasty chips on the uppers, and smooth out the lowers.
Then the racetech springs will go in to complete the front end.

Here's the pics for the powder coating:
 

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I'm also changing the oil in the cheapo rfy shocks. Once disassembled they actually appear to be worth the $100. Except for the slurry of what looked to be white lithium grease and light machine oil that came out of them. The only thing i need to disassemble now is the bladder assembly.

Does anyone know what the thread side is on the schrader valve? Its an odd 7mm diameter, and none of my thread pitch gauges can identify the size.

I need to make a tool to screw in so i can pull out the bladder cap. I have it out to the edge where i can see the o-ring/bladder. But I cant get any more leverage on the cap. Any one have any dis assembly info on these?

Heres a pic of a compressor/puller tool I made to disassemble them.
 

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How did I miss this one... What size are those Mikunis? they look huge or is that just a perspective thing?

Fixed ignition is fine, but don't try riding at low revs with high load eg riding in traffic up hill at low speed in high gear. Stock ignition gets to full advance at 3-4000 revs anyway.
 
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