the zombie apocalypse thread...

VonYinzer said:
If the guns were properly regulated and existed in much smaller numbers, than it would make sense that "the criminals" wouldnt have as many guns.
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Not gonna flame but you gutted your own argument with this. You see, all the good and law abiding citizens give up their firearms and lay their lives in the hands of our oh so effective police and the only ones with guns will be.....those cops and the bad guys. And when was the last time a cop was there to STOP a crime? like......never in my lifetime. They always come afterward...usually LONG after and say something akin to "we'll get right on it...." which is worth exactly as much as the ink it took to print this on your computer screen.

I have no less that 35 different hammers. Do I have too many hammers?
More people are killed in the US by hammers than by firearms.
Hell, canned ham probably kills nearly as many.....
Cigarettes certainly kill more people but otherwise bright and thoughtful folk still suck the tobacco-cock and those aren't regulated in any meaningful way. Ban cigarettes first and you'll see far fewer useless deaths every year.
For that matter, what about motorcycles? Shit man, these things are really dangerous and someone could get hurt! OMG! Let's regulate them all to a maximum of 200cc and no more than 11hp.
That's the solution....more regulations.
 
Swagger said:
Not gonna flame but you gutted your own argument with this. You see, all the good and law abiding citizens give up their firearms and lay their lives in the hands of our oh so effective police and the only ones with guns will be.....those cops and the bad guys. And when was the last time a cop was there to STOP a crime? like......never in my lifetime. They always come afterward...usually LONG after and say something akin to "we'll get right on it...." which is worth exactly as much as the ink it took to print this on your computer screen.
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Bam. My thoughts exactly. I am self reliant. That is why I own them. Never know, zombies may one day come and rule the land....the "eat your brains and stagger from place to place" type, or "the socially restricted, substance desperate , over medicated, under stimulated, bored with their own life" type.....wait, is this happening already?
 
VonYinzer said:
Didnt mean to ruffle feathers. Just bums me out sometimes that we live in such a violent country.
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Change the word "country" to "world". I find it amazing that we haven't been able to quell our violent nature over the course of social evolution. I am a total pseudo-hippie that is a strong voice in the futility of war.

I wish that we didn't have to be defensive. I choose not to be offensive or intrusive. I am non-dominating, but I am very protective and cautious! I think that my standpoint is very much rooted in the circumstances of the world around me. That in and of itself is a terrible way to be, and I am such a hypocrite when it comes to that....all I can think of is that this is the very reason that we have a bunch of hard dicks standing around having a nuclear warhead standoff. No one is willing to back down, so the threat is ever present.

I guess that I'm just a huge p&s*y when it comes down to it, and I don't wanna be caught with my pants down thinking "I can't believe this happened to ME!!!"

No feathers ruffled brother. I agree with you 100%. If I think about it for more than 5 minutes it makes me want to get drunk to kill the depression that it invokes.

And yes, this is a complete case of "quality, not quantity".
 
I have two right now and will be getting my grandfathers four very soon. I like variety, I own a truck, car, boat, 2 snowmobiles and 3 motorcycles.

I don't mind a few different guns. .270 for open field hunting, my drilling (12 ga, 12 ga, .3006) for deer and game bird, a .308 pump for in the trees/ moose and family heirloom weapons.

.22's are fun, an SKS could also be fun and almost as cheep. I just don't see many assault rifles being practical outside of assault situations. (out side of zombies)

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If I lived in the states I would have a full auto weapon to go shoot cars at the range.

To make my closing statement, I would like to say it is KICK ASS how in the states, I can walk in to a Cabelas or Bass Pro and pick or closely examine and handle a locked/ safe weapon without having to see some joker behind a desk separating the weapons and I by 10' who thinks I cant afford a brand new 7mm Win Super mag. SCREW YOU VAUGHAN MILLS BASS PRO!
 
Well since I look like a zombie when I get up in the morning after a big night I'll be going the Bill Murray/Zombieland technique and just wander around with my arms in front of me moaning, just take a little longer to get to the pub ;)

Cheers
Steve
 
Did anyone see Mythbusters last night? That is why I need a Barret .50 cal, in-case the Zombies try to infiltrate my compound using a phone book armored vehicle! I know Zombies don't normally resort to technology, but I figure after they have devoured all the dumb asses who are not "prepared", then they will evolve to a higher breed of zombies, with higher intelligence, that will develop ingenious methods to get brains!
 
Easy:
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virus is transmitted by bite. If it's airborne, repirator.

The weapon argument is kind of pointless-there will always be more zombies than you. Best offense is a good defense and hiding out till they rot out. Still need guns, though-I like that Taurus Judge, Mossberg tactical, and machete-mainly stuff to put them at a distance. Also works equally well on feral animals and other 'survivors' who decide to 'bug-out' and f#ck with people. A crazy human is more dangerous than a brainless zombie ;) Food-wise-scavenge until it stabilizes enough to claim a farm, then bug-in.
 
I think somewhere along the line we lost what was truly terrifying about the zombie apocalypse. When we decided for the sake of realism that it would have to be caused by a virus (and a fluid transmitted one at that), you instantly introduce survival as a possibility. Even in the Max Brooks model (zombie survival guide, world war Z) where they don't starve or decompose, the only scary part is really the initial infection rush. If we are assuming that they can starve, al la 28 days later model, it's just a matter of hunkering down in something solid enough that it can't be stratched into with a metric fuckton of water and a decent reserve of preserved foods. Which you could presumably do in your own home if you're quick about drying any fresh food and filling anything that'll hold water before the utilities go out.


Now Romero, he had something scary. There's no logical cause, no laws of nature to adhere to. Just a big old mess of zombies out your front door that only gets bigger. And no matter where you go, they're there too and you're the one running out of gas and bullets.
 
Actually in the original Night of the Living Dead, the dead return to life because of a Russian satellite than falls to earth. It was his way of displaying the fears of technology running wild, and destroying the human side of all of us.
 
Kev Nemo said:
Easy:
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virus is transmitted by bite. If it's airborne, repirator.

The weapon argument is kind of pointless-there will always be more zombies than you. Best offense is a good defense and hiding out till they rot out. Still need guns, though-I like that Taurus Judge, Mossberg tactical, and machete-mainly stuff to put them at a distance. Also works equally well on feral animals and other 'survivors' who decide to 'bug-out' and f#ck with people. A crazy human is more dangerous than a brainless zombie ;) Food-wise-scavenge until it stabilizes enough to claim a farm, then bug-in.
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the problem here lies in the fact that while the suit might stop the initial laceration, the crushing pressure of a solid bite, even the comparatively weak human bite can easily rupture the flesh INSIDE the bite, allowing the exchange of fluids..in this case zombiegoo.
I still think autoclaved Cabon-Kevlar hard body armor os the way to go.
 
Forget armor... I building a Hindenburg style rigid airship (minus the extremely flammable paint, and explosive hydrogen...) filling it with food, and floating about 1000 feet above the madness until they all rot away. If we built enough of them we can have a whole fleet. Anyone else down?
 
Actually swagger, I am very familiar with this suit and its designer! This suit is designed to take a bite from a great white without sustaining damage to the human skin or bones! The layers of SS mesh is different than regular chain male, and it along with a special fiber weave under it disperses the energy of a bite across a very large area, which decreases the force exerted on a concentrated area. This allows you to take a tremendous amount of force with out harm, much like a bullet proof vest. The problem the designer can't solve, is that when a shark bites, it typical thrashes and shakes (which is what allows the sharks teeth to work like a reciprocating saw) to tear away flesh. The bite and the shaking will not puncture the suit, but the violent thrashing will break bones that then poke through the skin and cause damage! I met this guy at the DEMA show (Diving Equipment Marketing Association, the SEMA of the SCUBA world) in 2007. He is a cool guy and very smart. He has launched an entire line of apparel based on his logo to help support research for the shark suits! I am sure this suit would fair well against zombies, however it is designed for Diving, which with the aid of a BCD (buoyancy compensation device) you can make weightless in water. On land, and lugging some firearms, well you better have super human strength!
 
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