Your fastest and on what
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Good sense of humour Dewjan......!
100mph was always a landmark........but as time and technology marched on, the value of the ton has been left behind. Doing a ton on my R1 doesn't feel dangerous or even fast....because the bike will do that speed so easily and in such a short distance. As other big sports bike owners will confirm, the bike has not even peaked in second gear at a ton !
For me, the dramatic change and leap forward in big bike perfromance was about 83, when the GPZ900R came along. In the early 80s I had a CBXz, and my pal had a Yam XS1100....we would go out for a ride and rag those bikes hard. On a good day you would see 130, even 135 a couple of times on the big Honda 6. When we sold those bikes, my mate stepped out of biking but I bought the GPZ900R.....wow ! suddenly, I wouldn't even bother telling him I had done 130....the bar was raised dramatically with that bike, as I regularly did 150 plus !
From then on, the new landmark was a ton and a half !
A couple of years ago, my son had an Aprilia RS125 Extrema....he is a slightly built jockey, but regularly clocked over a ton on it.........a standard road going 125 ! I have followed him on my R1 and clocked him at exactly a ton a number of times.....so i know it's true.
100mph was always a landmark........but as time and technology marched on, the value of the ton has been left behind. Doing a ton on my R1 doesn't feel dangerous or even fast....because the bike will do that speed so easily and in such a short distance. As other big sports bike owners will confirm, the bike has not even peaked in second gear at a ton !
For me, the dramatic change and leap forward in big bike perfromance was about 83, when the GPZ900R came along. In the early 80s I had a CBXz, and my pal had a Yam XS1100....we would go out for a ride and rag those bikes hard. On a good day you would see 130, even 135 a couple of times on the big Honda 6. When we sold those bikes, my mate stepped out of biking but I bought the GPZ900R.....wow ! suddenly, I wouldn't even bother telling him I had done 130....the bar was raised dramatically with that bike, as I regularly did 150 plus !
From then on, the new landmark was a ton and a half !
A couple of years ago, my son had an Aprilia RS125 Extrema....he is a slightly built jockey, but regularly clocked over a ton on it.........a standard road going 125 ! I have followed him on my R1 and clocked him at exactly a ton a number of times.....so i know it's true.
Swapmeet Louie said:
Thanks for writing that. I was kind of thinking damn! these guys need to go to Bonneville and become stars!
boingk
Standard gearhead.
Its a matter of having the right gear, and the right amount of money, to do it. I'm sure I could have done it on my mates ZX6-R when he gave me a ride... but that thing was twitchy as hell and its not my bike.
Meanwhile, I reckon I'll smoke the 170 mark once I get my GSX-1100EF going properly.
Titan said:
Yeah... I don't like the supersports. I want something I can ACUTALLY take for a thrash. My XR600R is a good example of theat genre, and the Aprilia RS125 was even better - and yes, they'll do a legit 100mph! I had mine at an indicated 105 and figured that was probably a legit 100 haha.
As for Busas doing 209? Please. They're all stuck at 186mph because of the limiters that they started putting on after the original model came out. If you take that off then I believe that they can be good for around 200 to 210mph - thats pure aerodynamic fact.
- boingk
lmao ;D true that!Swapmeet Louie said:
I've had my DS7 up to 75mph and it "feels" like your flyin! My Hayabusa will go almost as fast in first gear than my DS7 will go top speed (factory rated at 85mph)
I've had my '02 Hayabusa redlined in 6th gear a few times ON A CLOSED COURSE!. And have been a GPS verified 192mph with minor mods and stock gearing. I'm two teeth up on the rear now so that'll probably never happen again. (I'd rather have the grunt than the top speed, it's more fun anyway)
We still have some fun on public roads occasionally, but it helps to have gone to HS with a State Trooper, and only when he'll hold traffic on our favorite back highway. I can't afford to have tickets either, as I hold a Class A CDL and drive for a living.
Anyone doing triple digits+ on roads with the motoring public is asking for trouble. And doing it drunk doesn't make it excusable... it makes you a dumbfuck for driving under the influence to begin with.
Oh, I forgot I had this...
Swapmeet Louie
Put some metal in yer eye....
If you take that off then I believe that they can be good for around 200 to 210mph - thats pure aerodynamic fact.
- boingk
If it's fact, than which is it? 200 or 210? What I wrote was an actual recorded real life speeds by the SCTA of the "recorded" fastest Hayabusa in the world. Which had unlimited body and chassis mods, Turbo's, running on fuel not gas, etc.
10 mph discreptancy is huge @ those speeds. Some Teams work for yrs to gain just a few mph increase in there average.
I'm not try to argue with you man. It just proves my point of how ridiculous "some" of these posts are.
- boingk
If it's fact, than which is it? 200 or 210? What I wrote was an actual recorded real life speeds by the SCTA of the "recorded" fastest Hayabusa in the world. Which had unlimited body and chassis mods, Turbo's, running on fuel not gas, etc.
10 mph discreptancy is huge @ those speeds. Some Teams work for yrs to gain just a few mph increase in there average.
I'm not try to argue with you man. It just proves my point of how ridiculous "some" of these posts are.
pablohoney
Don't Call Me Shirley.
I did about 140 mph on a race track with a BMW s1000rr, damn that bike was smooth. With the shift assist and traction control, i was so happy I almost wet myself.
I was curios to look at Bonneville and El Mirage records in the production classes. In the SCTA rule book for te production class there is a rule "All performance modifications must be out of view". In production you must use the stock throttle bodies and exhaust. You can't enlarge the exhaust outlet. BUT you can build the engine. Cams, valves, flow the head, rods, pistons etc. and still be qualified for "production". I had a look at the current records. Interesting.
Bonneville production records.
650cc Susan Robertson. 165.994 08/04
750cc Performance Werx. 174.622 08/10
1000cc Pflum and Wagner 196.476 10/10
1350cc Vance and Forstall 211.526 08/09
What I did find interesting was the 1350cc Production record at El Mirage 11 years ago. It was set in Nov. 1999 by Rick Yacoucci on a Hayabusa at 203.035. The fastest single run by a motorcycle at El Mirage is held by John Noonan on his Hayabusa running in the APS/BF at 252.035.
At the Texas mile one blown Hayabusa ran 272.
I believe Hayabusa's are factory restricted to 185. There are two club members running stock but unrestricted Hayabusas. They are struggling to get into the 190s.
Bonneville production records.
650cc Susan Robertson. 165.994 08/04
750cc Performance Werx. 174.622 08/10
1000cc Pflum and Wagner 196.476 10/10
1350cc Vance and Forstall 211.526 08/09
What I did find interesting was the 1350cc Production record at El Mirage 11 years ago. It was set in Nov. 1999 by Rick Yacoucci on a Hayabusa at 203.035. The fastest single run by a motorcycle at El Mirage is held by John Noonan on his Hayabusa running in the APS/BF at 252.035.
At the Texas mile one blown Hayabusa ran 272.
I believe Hayabusa's are factory restricted to 185. There are two club members running stock but unrestricted Hayabusas. They are struggling to get into the 190s.
Swapmeet Louie
Put some metal in yer eye....
Ya Hoof. My SCTA that I was referencing is from o8'. For some reason I am missing ALL my other yrs. I have bought a new rule book for the last 10 consecutive yrs @ El' Mirage. They seem to be walking off my book shelf in my garage...? hmmm...
But, again. This Just proves how difficult it is to go as fast as some claim to go. And how it's more than likely FALSE.
The only thing that is designed to be a better lier than a lawyer is a speedometer.
But, again. This Just proves how difficult it is to go as fast as some claim to go. And how it's more than likely FALSE.
The only thing that is designed to be a better lier than a lawyer is a speedometer.
pacomotorstuff
Coast to Coast
Wow!
I don't think I've seen this much response to a DTT post since I suggested we all build a bike together and I'd supply the 'glass (but I digress).
And a lot of vitriol, as well, unfortunately.
Good to see we all hang together so well as a "club" and enjoy each other as people and riders.
Anyway, I can't speak for the "others" who have posted their high speeds on their various rides but...
As far as my Yam 350 ride, after all these years with this bike (which I still have after 42 years), allowing for instrument error and all that, hey I can only tell you what the speedo was reading when I backed off. If you can, track down the Royal Enfield 750 rider whose back wheel I was chewing on when common sense overrode 17 year-old testosterone - he might have a story of his own. I'm trying to get the bike back in good enough shape to ride again and if any of you naysayers want to, let's find a long straight and go for it.
As far as my '89 Taurus SHO, Car and Driver got 141 mph out of their test buggy (14 mph faster than the baddest ass 1989 Mustang available that year) and theirs was bone stock. Mine wasn't. It's long gone - one of the best cars I ever owned.
Regarding the 747 ride, phone or email Air Canada or Transport Canada (I'll find the flight number if you're so inclined) and you can get their spin on it as well. 705 mph groundspeed, it's in the record.
No, I've never been to Bonneville and probably never will be, have never fought 3 years to get 2mph there, but to post innuendo and diss other club members, well geez I'm not certain that's what Tim and Noel had in mind when they started this club...
And maybe we should all think back to what "Do the Ton" means, anyway - I had to explain it to one or two people when I was on the DTT booth first thing Sunday morning.
So, when was the first time you did over 100 mph anyway? Mine was 1969...
Have a good day.
Regards,
Pat Cowan,
Vintage Motorcycle Fiberglass / Pacomotorstuff
I don't think I've seen this much response to a DTT post since I suggested we all build a bike together and I'd supply the 'glass (but I digress).
And a lot of vitriol, as well, unfortunately.
Good to see we all hang together so well as a "club" and enjoy each other as people and riders.
Anyway, I can't speak for the "others" who have posted their high speeds on their various rides but...
As far as my Yam 350 ride, after all these years with this bike (which I still have after 42 years), allowing for instrument error and all that, hey I can only tell you what the speedo was reading when I backed off. If you can, track down the Royal Enfield 750 rider whose back wheel I was chewing on when common sense overrode 17 year-old testosterone - he might have a story of his own. I'm trying to get the bike back in good enough shape to ride again and if any of you naysayers want to, let's find a long straight and go for it.
As far as my '89 Taurus SHO, Car and Driver got 141 mph out of their test buggy (14 mph faster than the baddest ass 1989 Mustang available that year) and theirs was bone stock. Mine wasn't. It's long gone - one of the best cars I ever owned.
Regarding the 747 ride, phone or email Air Canada or Transport Canada (I'll find the flight number if you're so inclined) and you can get their spin on it as well. 705 mph groundspeed, it's in the record.
No, I've never been to Bonneville and probably never will be, have never fought 3 years to get 2mph there, but to post innuendo and diss other club members, well geez I'm not certain that's what Tim and Noel had in mind when they started this club...
And maybe we should all think back to what "Do the Ton" means, anyway - I had to explain it to one or two people when I was on the DTT booth first thing Sunday morning.
So, when was the first time you did over 100 mph anyway? Mine was 1969...
Have a good day.
Regards,
Pat Cowan,
Vintage Motorcycle Fiberglass / Pacomotorstuff
joeyputt
The green flag sets me free
I agree Brother Hoofhearted that pushing past the 190 mark is extremely difficult, I read a very interesting article a while back about a team trying to break 200 after running 198's and 199's etc. There is something about that 200 mark.
I already said it earlier but around 160 is as fast as I have been.
I already said it earlier but around 160 is as fast as I have been.
Swapmeet Louie
Put some metal in yer eye....
Im sorry
Swapmeet Louie
Put some metal in yer eye....
joeyputt said:
No, for not swallowing every single story hook line and sinker I suppose.
dewjantim
duc in the park.....
You know....... in 2005 the record for the 1000-1350 stock, partially streamlined, naturally aspirated motorcycle class was held by....... a BMW.....a K1200S... at an average speed of 173.57 MPH. Now being a huge BMW fan I really took notice of this. I pondered to myself how on earth can a 170 mph Beemer be faster than a Busa'. So I did a little research on speed records and conditions at Bonneville Salt Flats. This is what I have found..... The Salt Flats are at an altitude of close to a mile high (4320 ft above sea level). Let me see...... the higher you go the thinner the air is....... a machine which is not turbocharged or supercharged can only breath in a set amount of air which is limited to several factors, carb size and combustion chamber size being two of them. With less oxygen in the limited amount of air being ingested by the engine the power output would be lowered....by a good amount. Not only that.......but, from what I understand (only what I have read, mind you) the salt is pretty slick stuff and rear tire slippage at high speeds is not at all unusual. Top this off with the fact that the bikes are breathing in air which is laced with tiny crystals of salt...... which can't be good for the combustion process, much less keeping the combustion chamber sealed from oil seepage past the rings due to the corrosive nature and hardness of the salt crystals. In the end it seems to me as though, and I admit that I am far from an expert in these matters, all these things would conspire to lower trap speeds..... perhaps even lower than speeds one could reach on highways and back-roads. Another thing, most of the posts here are based on speedo readings and are stated as such. We all know that speedometers can be inaccurate, but we also know that some are accurate. Who can tell ???? Then why should some of us poke fun at the speeds people have claimed to have gone...... maybe they are right and the rest of us are fools. Some of us think that high speed hi jinks on public roads, maybe sober.......perhaps not..... are socially irresponsible and even stupid. What I would like to question is........ why would anyone who has views like this even want to be a part of a website or movement which glorifies street racing and/or posing like a Rocker. These guys were not nice polite society....... they were rough and tumble, hard working, blue collar rednecks out for a good time with a lust for life, speed, and thrills. I have ridden motorbikes for over 40 years...... thousands of times I have exceeded the speed limit........ hundreds of times I have broken the ton....... and a few times I have had a few while doing these things. To me, this is what motorcycles are all about....... doing as you please and not worrying about being so politically correct and scarred of what someone might think. Do The Ton.... hell, I don't think you should be allowed on here if you haven't....... but..... you know.... some think I am stupid anyway........ 
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Swapmeet Louie
Put some metal in yer eye....
Ok... yesterday I was thrown into the social group of "hipster" because of a particular beverage I prefer to consume. Now this. So, I'd like to set the record straight. Things I am not, hipster, rocker, biker,hippie,yeppie, white,brown,yellow or cool. Things I am: One to call bullshit when I see it, Father, husband, builder,rider, laborer.
And ya, you should be scared of what I'm thinking if you think its cool to do the ton drunk while sharing the road with my wife and children. The last few sentences of you post are some of the most disrespectful, inconsiderate, and irresponsible claims. I'm sure I can confidently say that not many here are going to jump on your rocker train. If those are your morals and values. I hope your drunk...?
And ya, you should be scared of what I'm thinking if you think its cool to do the ton drunk while sharing the road with my wife and children. The last few sentences of you post are some of the most disrespectful, inconsiderate, and irresponsible claims. I'm sure I can confidently say that not many here are going to jump on your rocker train. If those are your morals and values. I hope your drunk...?
biker_reject
Over 1,000 Posts
That's why I always qualify my speed claims with "indicated" as speedos are notoriously inaccurate. As for high triple digit speeds, there are so many areas around my area where that stuff is routine. Youtube is also a testament to the extreme speeds some of us ride. I think those days are behind me as I am a relatively new dad and married. My dream is to build a dedicated track bike, but even track days seem too risky for me at this point. That brings to mind perhaps a new topic/thread of how many of us married, maybe even with children still engage in aggressive riding? I'm guessing the number drops dramatically.
dewjantim
duc in the park.....
Hey Louie....... I noticed you have had a lot to say about claims made on high speed runs, but you haven't posted your personal best........ come on brother.....let us in on your dirty little speed secret. I know you had to have a speedo on something so fess up....... just don't tell me you did 126 on a CB550 unless it was pushed from an airplane with you on it . ........ hehehehe.
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