1966 Honda Benly C95 Restoration - putting the puzzle back together...

Re: 1963 Honda Benly C95 Restoration

My tank was very shiny but didn't look great when we pulled it out the oven, then I went to town with the 3mm rubbbing compound (by hand) and she keeps looking better every time almost have her glass smooth almost. LOL. Oscr (YRC owner) said I could even wet sand then polish.
 
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hey man, get some of this! give it a try! this works awesome to polish out powder

Here is a link to the Liquid Ice
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?...temType=PRODUCT
 
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I'll look into painting the parts, but I'm thinking blasting/polishing will be a heck of a lot cheaper, and I'm not going for a concourse restoration here. Only reason I'm going to paint/powder it at all is I want it black vs. red. If it was the original black paint, I'd leave it alone (the red paint is actually in great shape - a little rubbing and it would be very shiny).

Pulled a few parts off it (sidecovers, battery, seat, tank, headlight) to see what I'm up against. Aside from new cables all 'round, new tires, new brake shoes and splicing 3 wires back together that have broken where they exit the handlebars (from the left controls) it's in good shape.

One problem may be finding replacement handlebars. The originals are bent, and I need the right holes in the right places in the bars for the internal wiring and internal throttle (yes, these have an internal throttle). The throttle cable exits the bars only about 5 inches from the throttle, so it's kind of pointless, but I guess they figured it was simpler.

Still has the original 46 year old grips. If the gauge is original, it has 2,800 miles (odo works - tested it by spinning the front wheel).

Looks great without the long seat - can't wait to get a solo seat on it.
 
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The early CB125 has a similar handlebar setup so it may broaden your search.
 
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This guy builds some wicked bars. Might be worth checking to see what it would cost to have him replicate your OEM ones? Some of the VTX guys I know have used him to build custom bars with good results. If I ape another VTX, I am going to have him make them for me to my specs. I believe Joe (JRK) had a guy he used for bar fabrication also...

http://www.brcustomcycles.com/Home_Page.php
 
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this is true! i have a buddy that makes them in his garage! makes some cool bars! here is his latest creation!
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Tim said:
The seat I get will look nicer than this, but it gives you an idea.
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where would you find that seat? I like it a lot. I've been thnking about trying a solo seat on my cb
 
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The solo seat in the picture earlier in the thread is an eBay item, sold by Classic Cycle Parts for only $37.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Dream-CA72-CA77-Black-Solo-Seat-w-springs-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem200321119383QQitemZ200321119383QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

The one I'm after (and am going to order from Thailand today) is closer to the original Japanese model.

This is a restored Japanese model CA72. The seat I'm ordering is a bolt-on replica of the original, all in black. Just the front solo seat. I can buy the luggage rack, but it's another $100 all in which is too much. Don't need it and I think the bike will look better without it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CA92-CA95-C92-C95-BENLY-C92-C95-BLACK-SOLO-SEAT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem290302170060QQitemZ290302170060QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
 
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man! that think just looks GANGSTA! i would love to rock that... looks like so much fun to ride! granted i would prob look like a gorilla on a scooter but i dont care i love it! I WANT ONE!

Tim have you seen this build yet?
http://www.hondatwins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

the builder is a super cool guy! he has helped me out a ton in the past!
 
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Tim said:
The solo seat in the picture earlier in the thread is an eBay item, sold by Classic Cycle Parts for only $37.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Dream-CA72-CA77-Black-Solo-Seat-w-springs-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem200321119383QQitemZ200321119383QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

The one I'm after (and am going to order from Thailand today) is closer to the original Japanese model.

This is a restored Japanese model CA72. The seat I'm ordering is a bolt-on replica of the original, all in black. Just the front solo seat. I can buy the luggage rack, but it's another $100 all in which is too much. Don't need it and I think the bike will look better without it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CA92-CA95-C92-C95-BENLY-C92-C95-BLACK-SOLO-SEAT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem290302170060QQitemZ290302170060QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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thanks for that link. I wish it wasn't an ebay item though. I don't order from ebay.
 
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You can deal with Classic Cycle directly if you prefer. I'm sure they wouldn't mind saving the eBay fees.
 
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Well I ordered my Thai seat - hopefully it's reasonably well made. All black - I didn't want it to stick out like a sore thumb. It is going to look pretty awesome, but like you say, anyone bigger than average will look like a gorilla on a mini-bike. Will fit my 5' 2" wife perfectly however.

Checked out that thread - pretty crazy mods being done to that front end. I'm hoping for simpler successes tonight, like actually seeing voltage in the electrical system :)

On the XS650 front, I'm just packing up the template and aluminum and will ship in the morning.
 
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ha ha ha ha my girl is a little shorty as well... 5'2 on a good day. she makes me SLAM all her scoots... she is working on me to take off the forwards on my Harley and toss the mids on there with some flat tracker bars so she can rock that... we will have to see on that... i would lover her to rock the cafe but the clutch is just SO hard for her to pull in sucks! i have tried it in like 5 other possitions as well... may have to just replace the clutch cable... i lubed the heck out of it as well... lame! wonder if in my box of cables i have an extra that will work... may have to look at that when i get home... sorry just rambling
 
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Tim said:
You can deal with Classic Cycle directly if you prefer. I'm sure they wouldn't mind saving the eBay fees.
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coo. When I looked them up though, their own link sent me to the ebay store. I'd def. rather deal with htem directly.
 
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Tim said:
On the XS650 front, I'm just packing up the template and aluminum and will ship in the morning.
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I am assuming that is for your rearsets? I talked to my CNC guy this past weekend about making up the plates. He is still on board, as soon as I get him the design. That is going to be the first thing I do once I get my tank back from Joe. Let me know how your plates turn out. I'll post pictures of what I come up with as soon as they are ready. Probably still going to cut a few sets to have on hand should any other members need them for the 70-73 650's. Sorry I am tardy on getting these done. Been busy trying to button up everything else first.
 
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Sounds good - it may take a couple kicks at this can to nail it down.
 
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Well, sorted out some more electrical tonight. Got the handlebar controls wrapped up (heat shrink) and threaded back through the bars and reconnected.

Turned on the key and bingo!

Horn worked once - seemingly dead which is too bad - will test against a charged battery to confirm its demise
I think the signal relay is shot too - constant 3w to the signal lights (no bulbs in any of the sockets - that's tomorrow's errand) but at least the switch works and the circuits are all solid
Starter turns the engine over
Neutral light shines (only light bulb on the bike!)
Having some issue with the headlight circuit, but I'll sort that out

Just need to:

Fix the signals - front two need new wires, bulbs and lenses - rear left needs bulb and lens, rear right needs a whole new socket, bulb and lens (parts bike here I come!)
Put on the new gas tank / petcock from the parts bike - hook up fuel to carb
Replace plugs

FIRE IT UP! And go for a spin down the lane on 43 year old tires ;) Tubes are holding air so what the hell.
 
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Pretty sure the bulbs create the resistance needed to actuate the relay. Should be fine once you put the bulbs in it.

Sounds like its coming along nicely.

Make sure you pick up some 30W (NON DETERGENT) this is the correct oil to use with a centrifugal oil filter. That seat is going to rock man.

Byrd
 
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Thanks for that - fresh battery, on a nice Accumate charger/maintainer and with a bulb in the socket did the trick for the ol' flasher relay.

Odd thing is the brake light circuit is always hot - even with the key turned off. That's pretty much the last electrical gremlin.

Took the plugs out, rested them on the engine and kicked it over - lots of spark on both sides. Picking up my new gas tank/petcock on Sunday. Will put it on, throw a fuel line on and see if it will fire up. There is fresh oil in it - the previous owner had it running, but yeah, I'll get some new proper old dino-oil and a fresh filter right away.

The wiring under the seating area in the frame is in perfect mint condition. The relay and mount look new, although they are original Denso units with Japanese writing on them along with the english bits. Hasn't been molested at all.

Poor design on the routing of the wiring from the handlebars into the headlight area. They pass through a very narrow slot and they're bound to rub when you turn the forks. No wonder they were all broken in the same spot. I soldered each one, heatshrink on each, wrapped with electrical tape to keep as much strain off the joints as possible and then another layer of heat shrink with lots of overlap on the original gray sheathing.

Can't wait to get it running. Ordering my white walls on Monday and should have the seat in a couple weeks.
 
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