"Cafe Racer" such a loose term! Craigslist "Gem" of the week!

Not even worth coming up with a snide remark . . .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Deus-Grievous-Angel-Cafe-Racer-Built-1979-Yamaha-SR500-/320984491495?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item4abc2aa5e7
 
HOLY CRAP... he paid $23,000 for it originally?!?!?!! I hope there was Vaseline handy at that sale. Ouch.
 
The BIN is about $14,500 too much based on the current market. I can get a Kenny Dreer Norton Commando one-off for significantly less . . .
 
Are we really about to start talking shit about a Deus Ex bike??? Really?


Those guys were just about the first folks to build a bike that actually got my attention in ages. Hell, that exact bike is what made me start paying attention to them and start researching the modern cafe resurgence. I fucking love that bike. Maybe it's just me...


Literally, if it wasn't for that bike I may not have stumbled across wrenchmonkeys, bratstyle, etc.
 
Are we really about to start talking shit about a Deus Ex bike??? Really?
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Uhmm, chill, didn't catch anyone trashing the bike, rather the price. 'Cafe' is cool, so sky's the limit, but realistically, $20K? Don't think so . . . but I have been wrong before.
 
Ill trash talk the bike.....

Mostly because I will never understand why Deus and Wrench Monkeys insist on putting shit tires on their bikes.
I get the point that its more a style exercise then anything else but that bike could and should have proper tires on the bike. Not something that severely limits the function of the bike.

If you were going to pay full blown retail for every part and pay a show hourly to install them, I bet it would cost $20K to build it.
Are there many things that I personally but for $20k before I bought a Deus SR? You bet.

But its a bike for the guy that has everything else and is never going to build it him/herself.
Its a completely different aspect of the hobby then what most here try and practice, but doesn't mean that it doesn't have a place.

Fact is something is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay. I have no doubt that "someone" will pay Deus $20K to buy into the lifestyle and such, but will someone else want to buy a bike from some random guy? Maybe maybe not.

I know if it was me I would be more then willing to pay the supposed $3k "discount" that the Ebay seller is claiming to deal directly with Dues to have it made exactly how I wanted to and be able to see my exact bike make all the blog and internet rounds. That kind of press and validation are worth something as well.
 
Betcha that if someone with more money than brains offered ANYBODY here a god awful amount of cash for their bike, they'd be signing that title over so fast it would make your head spin.

The fact is that people will pay for a name. The Deus bikes ARE NOT SPECIAL. THEY ARE NOT AMAZING. I can think of a bunch of bikes built right here on this site over the past few years that outshine just about any Deus, Wrenchmonkees, etc. bike. That said, they are nice. They're clean and sanitary with a bunch of high end aftermarket bits. But make no mistake, you're buying press coverage, douchebag bragging rights, and a couple stickers for your giant pile of money. Congrats.
 
Go onto any Craiglist section and search for " RE: ", then click the title only option and search. It's pretty damn funny.
 
I thought the definition of a streetfighter was "I dropped my gixxer and my parents wouldn't pay for new plastics..."
 
was wondering what happened to this guy

Well, guess I just got set straight...

Now hope you don't get mad Swiv :D, just thought this would help anyone else out there that mistakenly respected Deus Ex or Wrenchmonkees

You have just been sent a personal message by Swivel on DO THE TON CAFE RACERS.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Deus are a t shirt hipster company that rip customers off blind for bikes put together from easy bolt-on bits that the Jap guy who works in the shop orders from companies back home.Half their shop is a just tables for t shirts and the shop that they have next door is just a big hipster coffee shop.They hardly do any metal work it's just paint and bolting bits on that come in boxes from Japan.Most of the parts on their shelves are so overpriced they will never sell:they are just there to give it a "bike shop feel".When I flew downunder to have a look I'm sure most of the stuff on shelves had been there for years.When I got them to get a part off the shelf to get a good price on it it was like a combination of christmas and total amazed excitement that any one would even ASK!.Copying exactly what skinny Japs do in Tokyo is not customising.Most of their parts are twice the EBay price for exactly the same part and I think they charge about 50% on that price to unpack it and walk it to near the bench,and then start the clock to bolt it on slow at about $250 an hour for labour.They are a great fashion company,but they sure are not really a bike making company.The guy who owns the company is a past t shirt company multi millionaire who probably has nothing better to do.I'm not down on the mob,but don't think they are good for anybody but themselves.Their bikes are worth about a third of what they sell them for.You could buy exactly the same bike and parts and bolt it together yourself for maybe a fifth of their prices.I've seen plenty of Deus bikes for sale on EBay worldwide and they never sell.That tells you what they are worth in the market I guess.

Wrenchmonkees bikes are just crap that are only built to ride to the cafe and back with cheap shitty tires and bad tuning mods.

Bratstyle and http://www.flakesmotorcycle.com/gallery.html produce real customs that involve real customising and not just stripping crap off and/or bolting bits on.

Its tragic that people so divorced from real sport bikes and riding fast that are impressed by garbage only produced to sell t shirts to fashion victims.
 
jdub said:
I thought the definition of a streetfighter was "I dropped my gixxer and my parents wouldn't pay for new plastics..."
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That is no more true than saying the definition of cafe racer is "I added an ebay seat to my old rusty honda and now its a one of a kind cafe racer"
 
Not that I give two shakes about the bike, am holding my breath, or plan to pop that last second bid in, but since it struck a nerve, I figured I'd point out the obvious.
 
Swiv is right on, though there are other more PC ways to say the same thing, and so is Surfly and so is Von yinzer. I hate them for doing what I could do better and for making money doing it. :)

Their bikes are not all bad and they definitely managed to capture the high end hipster wannabe market. $23k for a recycled SR is a touch steep but it declares their products to be worthy of only high rollers and plebs should look up to them. Not a bad marketing strategy. They are into fashion and that's what sells for big dollars. They aren't really a motorcycle shop though and that shows up with things like those stupid and dangerous replica Model T Ford tires they fit.
 
hahaha, wow. Had no idea they had such a bad hipster stigma. Look at me all "That's a sweet bike!" ::) Are they really just a bunch of marketing guys that are in this for the cash and the scene? What is the scene? Am I a hipster?!?


eh, whatever. Haters gonna hate, posers gonna pose. I'ma get stoned and watch a movie.


Later guys,
T
 
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