Honda CB 360 - Keiryō Café Racer Project

Since the financial crisis of buying tickets to the US for the summer hit hard... I had to do some jobs that didn't require any money. So I decided to think of a way to get my rear brake to work once the bike is finished.

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This'll do. I can stay with the original brake light switch mount and I can even keep the original adjustable cable. Just need to mod the peg a little bit because like this I won't even be using half of the thing :p

That kind of was my last job before getting the frame ready for powdercoat and the swingarm ready for extending and bracing. So out came the wheels, suspension and swingarm.

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Loads of useless brackets and a whole lot of grinding dust later...

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Cleaned up a couple of the welds too. Those Japanese fellas didn't care for cleaning up weld spots at all. On my old VFR 400 the aluminum was welded beyond compare, on this the welds just look shit ::)

Oh well, if I'm doing it up, might as well do it right. ;)

By the way, the other day I finally got the oil pump off.

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Doesn't look too bad, but at 26 euros for a new pair I'm not gonna stick these bits back in. :eek:

That's it for now until I get some money in again... will have to split spending cash on the Café Racer and this little project I picked up just the other day! 8)

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I was referring more to the frame rather than the swinger. You'll probably want some support between the frame rails behind the shock mounts.
 
Sonreir said:
I was referring more to the frame rather than the swinger. You'll probably want some support between the frame rails behind the shock mounts.

Yes of course. Going to welding the original hoop in place. Won't be taking that off again anyways so. :)
 
Nickel89 said:
That's it for now until I get some money in again... will have to split spending cash on the Café Racer and this little project I picked up just the other day! 8)

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What model/year is that? I like that a lot!
 
ronnie said:
What model/year is that? I like that a lot!

Off the shelf it was a 1988 CB1 Honda but it ended up in the hands of Kenny Roberts Jr's old mechanic, Dutchman Marc Hoegee, and eventually made it's way over to me. Not before Hoegee took a couple of Roberts' old spare parts and upgraded the bike a bit. Rear Öhlins, billet radial Brembo and billet monobloc caliper, all gp500 stuff, on a CB1 ::)

Needs some work to get running and I have a couple of ideas as well... I'll keep it updated here to for a bit, if you like ;)
 
First update in a LOOOOOONG time. Busy project at the paper. Have hardly seen anything other than the editing room floor. I feel like locking myself up in my shop :p

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Chromoly extension bits from Wrench Tech Racing. Have to find a gap in both my own and my welder's time schedule. Brace the frame and the swingarm. Weld these extensions in.

Soon as that's done I can get this frame to the powder coater and get started on rebuilding :)
 
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I am certainly not an engineer. Not exactly sure what Im looking at here. Please tell me if I am wrong. But it looks like you removed the old brake bedal and are using the short end of this rearset as your new brake pedal? Im not sure that will provide much braking power. The old pedal was like 12 inches long, new one being 2 inches long you may have multiplied application force by like 6 times. So if the old required 15 pounds of force to employ rear brake the new one may need like 90 lbs of force to do the same thing. All that with your toe?

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And then theres this. I know guys do it. I have never thought this to be a very good idea. cutting and welding the arms on your swing. That just doesnt even sound right to me. Maybe do me the favor and ask your welder if he thinks this is safe.

sorry to sound like a downer.

On the up side everything else looks great.
 
trek97 said:
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I am certainly not an engineer. Not exactly sure what Im looking at here. Please tell me if I am wrong. But it looks like you removed the old brake bedal and are using the short end of this rearset as your new brake pedal? Im not sure that will provide much braking power. The old pedal was like 12 inches long, new one being 2 inches long you may have multiplied application force by like 6 times. So if the old required 15 pounds of force to employ rear brake the new one may need like 90 lbs of force to do the same thing. All that with your toe?

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And then theres this. I know guys do it. I have never thought this to be a very good idea. cutting and welding the arms on your swing. That just doesnt even sound right to me. Maybe do me the favor and ask your welder if he thinks this is safe.

sorry to sound like a downer.

On the up side everything else looks great.

The brake pedal is still something I'm not entirely happy about. As a matter of fact, I've had a chat with a friend's father who's mechanic in a Velocette classic racing outfit. He advised me to drop the idea as well. Not just because of the amount of force you'd have to apply, but also because I'm an idiot (his exact words :') ).

If you look closely, you'll see I've actually turned the action around. If I were to push the pedal like it's mounted now, I'd pushing the actuator rod instead of pulling. Technically pushing should work, but the rod will just bend most likely.

Friend's dad advised me to add a couple of tabs and go with a cable operated rear brake. 'You hardly use it, but when you do, it's be nice if it worked', he added. ::)


And on the swingarm. Well, tube frames aren't too well known for their rigidity anyways. Will be professionally welded and I'm going to be adding a brace to the swinger as well. It'll be sound, trust me :)
 
Been showing off my goods elsewhere for a while, but I thought it was definitely time to update you lot :)

So, quick recap; I've had the frame finalised. Bracing to the frame and swingarm, as well as the swingarm extension, has been welded in by a buddy of mine. Then I had things powdercoated, and now I've reached the point of assembly.

This week I put the motor in the frame, switched out all the bearings and bushings, and built a numberplate come headlight. Couldn't help myself... so I chucked the tank and seat on as well.

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Don't know about you guys, but to me this is starting to look tasty! ;D
 
Looking good!

Have you sorted out your rearsets?

I also meant to ask you where you got your front braided brake line from, as Im having a paint trying to get the correct fitting.
 
Thanks man :)

Rearsets I haven't quite finished just yet, but that will sort itself out :)

The braided line came from a KTM, don't remember the model to be honest. It has a straight fit at the bottom which works perfectly.
 
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