Honda CL350 Stator and REG/REC

you guys are fucked up. the regulator is one phase the rectifier is 3.

each ac stator wire needs to be rectified. after its converted to dc its only 1 phase.

like I said before when Sonreir says I'm a troll I'll leave.
 
DC has phases? ummmmmmm....ok?

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You keep on using that word.
 
So...

Sonreir and I worked together to design an upgraded THREE PHASE stator for the Honda twins. He did the calculations and testing for the wiring, I did the CAD design for the base and winding posts.

Now, why would we go through the time and effort to design a three phase stator, if that's what came stock?

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=74824.msg894152#msg894152

Despite the fact that you went to grad school you're still wrong.
 
advCo said:
So...

Sonreir and I worked together to design an upgraded THREE PHASE stator for the Honda twins. He did the calculations and testing for the wiring, I did the CAD design for the base and winding posts.

Now, why would we go through the time and effort to design a three phase stator, if that's what came stock?

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=74824.msg894152#msg894152

Despite the fact that you went to grad school you're still wrong.


I'm not wrong because I designed my rec/reg myself. I'm legal inspected with lights snd signals and running without a battery on a cb360.


so what are the wires in my stator pic? I've been lurking here for years. I read the stator post. didn't he change the guage of the wire to increase the voltage?
 
AgentX said:
"Single-phase Earther"


its a stupid translation from Chinese to English on the net not fact. 3 ac stator wires means 3 phase by definition. there is a reason this thread has been sitting since 2013.

no point to argue with nonsense. I obviously did not use a 3 phase bridge rectifier to convert AC to DC on my honda twin because I'm a troll. except for the pics I'll post in my dirtbag challange cb360.
 
Honda twins made before 1978 are single phase.

The pink wire represents the common end of both the yellow and white wires. The white and yellow wires do represent separate windings in the stator, but those separate windings are on the SAME phase (e.g. the sine waves are in phase with another). This was a common approach for early Japanese motorcycles because voltage regulation technology still had a ways to go and the engineering decision was made to split the output of the stator into separate wires which could be utilized in differently, depending on power usage needs. In this case, the yellow and (common) pink wires are permanently engaged and provide power at all times. When the headlight is switched on, the stator output on the white wire is joined into the yellow wire. This would only be possible if the power sources were in phase. If the phases were different, the power would be cancelled.

Suzuki also did the same thing with their earlier twins (most notably their two strokes). The common wire on those setups were yellow/green with green/white and red/green making up the opposite end of the single phase, split, stator.
 
That said, you can install a three phase regulator/rectifier on a Honda twin (and the Suzukis, too) with no ill effect.

Also, possibly academic, but the black wire doesn't have a "phase" because it's not AC power; it's DC.
 
Sonreir said:
That said, you can install a three phase regulator/rectifier on a Honda twin (and the Suzukis, too) with no ill effect.

Also, possibly academic, but the black wire doesn't have a "phase" because it's not AC power; it's DC.

thanks for letting people here that I'm not a crack head troll. I've ran over a thousand miles with a 3 phase rec/reg without issue. I never got the stock harness, it was ripped out by the same dude who bobbed it. I just rewired ac with a 3 phase bridge rectifier and regulated it.
 
bracketmaker said:
thanks for letting people here that I'm not a crack head troll. I've ran over a thousand miles with a 3 phase rec/reg without issue. I never got the stock harness, it was ripped out by the same dude who bobbed it. I just rewired ac with a 3 phase bridge rectifier and regulated it.
The issue is that you insisted, no matter how many ways we tried to explain otherwise, that Honda twin charging systems (like in a CB350 which is the subject of this thread and CB360s) are 3 phase. They are single phase. Because your 3 phase reg/rec works on a Honda twin, doesn't make the Honda twin 3 phase. Perhaps even more significant is your touting of credentials to base your theories, then calling your intelligence superior to everyone in the room. None of the rest of us have yet to tout our own credentials, but you may be surprised who you are choosing to argue with in this group. I hope you'll consider not being so arrogant about what you think you know, especially when it's significantly inaccurate.
 
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