Online shopping makes this a logistics nightmare, unless you screen every shipment entering from said country. There really isn’t a way unless you have some real powerful bargaining chips to get their government to crack down on it themselves.J-Rod10 said:Serious question.
China has been stealing out tech for years and years, and selling it back to the consumers at a fraction of the cost. What do you do about that? Just let them, in fear of a "trade war?" Or, do something to combat it? How can you combat it?
The general consumer doesn't really care. They like going to Wal-Mart and saving money.
You really can't defend them, against a company operating in China, selling direct to consumer.farmer92 said:Online shopping makes this a logistics nightmare, unless you screen every shipment entering from said country. There really isn’t a way unless you have some real powerful bargaining chips to get their government to crack down on it themselves.
But that’s never going to happen.
This isn’t a new problem, there’s a reason that patents exist. Unfortunately they’re only worth what you are willing to spend to defend them.
exactly, patents are useless really.J-Rod10 said:You really can't defend them, against a company operating in China, selling direct to consumer.
But, if you put a tariff on the goods, and it makes them more expensive than those bought domestically, you might see people buying those instead.
Reminds me of a story I once saw. The guy that created, and patented the selfie stick was at a trade show, as a spectator. There was a booth selling "The Original" selfie stick. The company was from China, and had made deals with so many retailers, that the guy couldn't go after them all. Essentially, he got the big boom when he released them, and a month later, China flooded the market.
We buy a lot of american steel and it's gone up 20% simply because they can. It's infuriating. Everyone's expecting a price increase so why not give it to them. Steel went up across the board, so basically everyone is paying more regardless of what they buy. Backfire if you ask me. The whole point was to increase the chinese stuff's price so the american companies can compete. Instead the american companies just took it as an opportunity to price gouge and are still higher than the chinese stuff.J-Rod10 said:Last batch of 6061 I bought was from $0.35 to $1 a foot, depending on size, more than the batch before. In the normal range of fluctuation. I've only ever bought Kaiser though, made in the US. I've seen a lot of guys bitching about prices going up considerably on steel, but they're buying import. So that makes sense.
Far as wood goes, everything is higher this time of the year. Spring time rolls around, homebuilding supplies go up like clockwork.
This is exactly what is going on. This administration is about "optics" but they are frequently more like "optical illusions" that sound good to the people who don't think much about the consequences or know much about how economies work.SONIC. said:The way I see it these tariffs helped 130 steel mills and fucked over millions of manufacturing businesses. This is not the way to get business back in America.
No it's not.farmer92 said:A price bump is the sole purpose of a tariff.
Exactly!SONIC. said:No it's not.
It should bump the import prices only, not the american steel prices.
Jarrod, they should be seeing a huge bump in revenue anyway, no need to raise prices other than to be assholes.
if they are still in business at the current prices, a huge increase in volume should be welcome, they shouldn't need to raise their prices.