Coast to Coast
It’s a total last ditch effort in front of the coming election. A complete show.
J-Rod10 said:People can say it's a show. The timing of it certainly plays into the mid-terms, no doubt. Also one of the main things he campaigned with. Cutting back illegal immigration.
I'm somewhat curious as to the number of anchor babies (for lack of a better term) that vote in each election. It would take 18 years to have an effect, but it would be an everlasting one if the SC ruled that you do not get automatic citizenship if your parent or parents are illegal.
That's sort of what the Supreme Court does, interpret constitutional precedent.carnivorous chicken said:There's a lot to unpack here. Weren't you just griping about the timing of the Kavanaugh sexual assault accusations? "People can say it's a show." This whole administration and its actions feel like one big reality TV show, don't they?
Isn't the usual Republican position, the usual conservative position, against "activist" judges who try to reinterpret constitutional precedent? Or does that not count if it favors a Republican political position?
Are you calling your fellow citizens "anchor babies"? The term has been discredited as dehumanizing, and rightly so, and I bet you can find a term (how about "babies"? And when you're talking about a person, use "who" not "that" if you want to recognize their humanity).
And you're talking about repealing or reinterpreting standard constitutional law through an executive order because you're concerned over what kind of electoral effects it might have? This belies an assumption that immigrants vote a certain way, which isn't true, but do you think it could be because of one party's policies?
Do you think that disenfranchising as many people as possible, including children born to immigrants, is the best thing for the US? Or the best thing for the Republican party?
J-Rod10 said:Trump did say it could be up to 15,000.
They're going to support border patrol logistically.
Do they get paid extra while remaining in the US, or do they get paid the same as they would be paid for the month?
irk miller said:This is just one guy, but something I think is funny:
My neighbor. Owns a land management company. His company has starting turning over $1mill per year in earnings. He employs half of his staff with an immigrant work force. It was a small time, glorified landscaping company until he started offering Rick Allen's (Republican Senator) construction company the keys to his Jeckyl Island beach house. Now he's getting city and county contracts. He can underbid most of the local companies doing the same work because he pays below minimum wage to that immigrant work force with no benefits and no payouts to Social Security, Federal taxes, or unemployment insurance, etc. Take a wild guess how he votes and whose sign gets put in his front yard at election time.
This immigration BS and religion is how the Republicans have been turning the middle class and labor force away from their traditional tendency to vote Democrat. No Republican is doing anything to protect their jobs or their pensions. They are barely even hiring them.
Some interesting tidbits from Pew: Undocumented immigration (Republicans like to call them Illegal because it sounds worse) has been on a steady decline since 2007. The number peaked at 12.2 million. If you do the math, undocumented immigrants account for about 3.5% of the total population. They account for roughly 8% of the labor force. California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois account for 59% of all undocumented immigrants. Most of them rest of them are in the southern states. Two thirds of all undocumented immigrants in the US have been here for more than 10 years, which means significantly less are entering the US every year, which is also why that overall number has been in decline.
The reality is, immigrant labor replaces slave labor. Republicans like my neighbor don't want that labor pool to dwindle. But, undocumented immigrants can't legally vote, so they need to ride the votes of the people that fear those immigrants will take their jobs.
J-Rod10 said:No, it isn't illegal to send the military to our border. Furthermore, someone being ok with our military being sent to logistically support Border Patrol for a rush at our border in no way makes them racist.
The caravan was offered shelter, medical care, jobs, and schooling. They turned it down to march on towards the US.