Vintage Privateer Smoker (RD350 Race Bike)

First Vintage Race Inspired Smoker

Not the most glamorous of things but the wheel bearings have been replaced, everything cleaned up. Front spokes and rim looks really nice, the rear spokes are pretty corroded and the rear rim has a few songs but still really good for being original. Depending on how things go I might end up with some stainless rims and spokes. Just cleaned and painted the sprocket for now, I'll get a new one once I have some time on it and I decided if I need to go up or down teeth. Tires are 90/90 and 110/90 avon roadwarrior


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Barber or bust.

My timeline was destroyed as there was more fab work than I realized on the frame. However, im still planning for barber, just dont know about the body work.. Maybe Kiley can throw some paint while im down there :)
 
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Why did you post a pic of your dirt ass lift? Clean that fucking thing, oh shit everything is back from powder.


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First Vintage Race Inspired Smoker

Tree built with new bearings, added some adjustable fork caps, got it all together. Tried to get the brass bushings in the swing arm with a rubber mallet but they were not having it. You can see them there 1/2 installed. I'll have to find a shop with a press to get them in.

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Hey man! sorry to hear that the bushings didnt go in, is there a possiblity that you post some detail pics how you changed the bushings,I might go down the same road this winter on my RD!
 
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things are looking good bro. If you got a length of threaded rod, flat washers and nuts. Just use that to "press" the bushings in. If you can get em back out. freeze bushings and warm up the swing tube.
 
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+1 with trek a little heat will spread things a little and chilling will shrink things a little we've all been there (cold shower) haha. Hope you can get them back out use some lube too every bit helps, progress still been made mate keep us updated .
 
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A press will get them in. I just installed some from economy cycle in my Daytona special.

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Just clean the seam off the ID of the swingarm tube using a die-grinder. Then a piece of all-thread, two nuts and washers, and about 3 minutes and they are together.
 
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As mentioned, you could try putting the bushings in the freezer for a bit to contract them. I have also used threaded rod with washers and nuts to "press" bushings and bearings in.
 
First Vintage Race Inspired Smoker

I don't know why I didn't think about putting them in the freezer.... Miss on my part. I'll see if I can find a press quick if not I'll try to pop them back out


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+1 with trek a little heat will spread things a little and chilling will shrink things a little we've all been there (cold shower) haha. Hope you can get them back out use some lube too every bit helps, progress still been made mate keep us updated .

Ya, you could take them swimming with you, at least that has worked for me :(
 
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So used the freezer/heat/allthread/nuts and got the bushings in. How tight should the inner bushings be? I had to give them some tough love to get them in.

I knew it was going to be the little things that would kill the build, just realized I don't have a thrust cover or shims, to Ebay I go, hopefully won't get raped to bad.


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The inner steel bushings should spin freely with no perceptible slop. If they are too tight at just the end or ends of the bores (which seems to be common enough) I just take a fine round file and dress them as needed. You can get the thrust covers from Mikes XS. The ones that go to the 650 with the rubber seals will work perfectly. Try a bearing supply house for shims. I set my swing arms up shimmed for zero slack with light oil and then re assemble with grease. This may seem too tight at first but wears in perfectly in just a couple of miles.
 
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The inner steel bushings should spin freely with no perceptible slop. If they are too tight at just the end or ends of the bores (which seems to be common enough) I just take a fine round file and dress them as needed. You can get the thrust covers from Mikes XS. The ones that go to the 650 with the rubber seals will work perfectly. Try a bearing supply house for shims. I set my swing arms up shimmed for zero slack with light oil and then re assemble with grease. This may seem too tight at first but wears in perfectly in just a couple of miles.

Alright, i'll have to push them back out then. They got tight about 1/2 way into the bushing. Ive read that some people use a hone on the bushings, if I can find one that small that seems like a good way to go. Is the XS650 swing arm bolt the same as well? I wouldn't mind replacing mine with one of the non tapered ones they sell at mikes http://www.mikesxs.net/parts/yamaha-xs650-pivot-shaft-swing-arm-bolt-with-nut-oem-447-22141-00
 
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A brake cylinder hone should work fine and be easy to find and cheap. Be careful not to over do it. Realize that the assembled bolt, inner bushings, spacer and end caps are an integral structural component of the frame once tightened down. The swing arm simply pivots around the inner bushings which take up the tangential play and the shims take up all the axial play so the arm can't slide back and forth between the two sides of the frame. If you put it all together without the swingarm and tighten it down you'll see how all the parts make up a precision internal bearing for the arm and that the bolt simply clamps them all together. I don't know if the 650 bolt is the same length or not, but don't see any advantage using the larger same diameter nut. Also, don't misinterpret the two nuts found stock on the RD's. I've had people tell me that you are supposed to tighten the first one down to snug and then lock it with the second nut which is incorrect. The second nut is only a jamb nut intended as a safety feature to make sure the first one doesn't fall off. Rather silly I think as there is no likely hood that it should come loose - there is no rotation of the assembly and the swing arm bolt and nut get tightened fair down clamping everything together very tight to the frame. Yamaha makes a same pitch nut for a later model bike that has a spring plate insert making it a lock nut which I like to use instead of the two nuts (sorry I don't know the part number), but a bit of locktite on a single nut should be fine. You could also drill it for a cotter pin if you wanted. You will also need some spacers to take up the space normally taken up by the passenger peg/exhaust mounting brackets if you remove these parts.
 
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