Texasstar said:
Good style never runs out of fashion
Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175
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Good style never runs out of fashion
Texasstar
Can't is a four letter dirty word
We delivered Zoöid to Bryan Fuller this weekend! He road it all weekend both daytime and night time! Zeke fires it up for Bryan and later he rides it into the Ace Cafe Friday Night Party! https://youtu.be/NxprvUiZgNo
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innovativems
Been Around the Block
man, this story on Zooid always makes me smile. So glad got to meet you both in Denton!
CALfeRacer
Fat man on a little bike
Late response here, but I haven't been on in a while... I got to see Zooid in person at Fuller's booth at SEMA a couple weeks ago, all I can say is wow! It looks even better in person than in the pictures, great job!!!
CarbsAndCylinders
Careful With That Axe Eugene
Sounds so good!
Luugo86
'73 CB350, '78 XS650 Cafe Killer
Congratulations young man. Your Father has set you on a great path in life and you have had the courage to walk it. I wish you all the best.
Flugtechnik
My bike is not transportation, it is a respite
This is awesome! Well done.
Man…I’m sorry I missed this! Congrats Zeke!! Barber is one of my very favorite places in this entire country. I’ve visited twice in the last couple years and am chomping at the bit for the next opportunity.
One of my favorite memories on this site was seeing Zeke get into bikes here, and how he approached it with respect and humility. I seriously doubt there is a better person for that job. Well deserved.
One of my favorite memories on this site was seeing Zeke get into bikes here, and how he approached it with respect and humility. I seriously doubt there is a better person for that job. Well deserved.
Texasstar
Can't is a four letter dirty word
Howdy. Zeke brought Zooid home for Thanksgiving and is back home in the shop to make it a rideable bike and not just eye candy. Both Fuller and Zeke are kind enough to give me something to tinker with…the bike was always suppose to come back so we could dial in the engine tuning.
Here are the current specifications for the engine build.
Zooid is 188 cc’s
Cb200 head decked .090” with drillled out oil journal
Cb160 cam sucking wheezing like it has asthma and not enough duration
.032” copper head gasket
.016” copper base gasket
Dyna S
Bore 54
Stroke 41
Gasket bore 54.79
Combustion chamber -15cc
Piston crown Akunar hi speed -5cc
Piston deck -.008 in the whole
Piston to head .040”
Plugs D8HA
Chain 428
TM 24 Mikuni flatslides asking “why in the hell did you put me on this bike.”
Compression- 8.6-1.
Piston to wall .002”
Piston to head. .040”
Honda shorty competition lever set from 4-1
Xl75 brake cable (Amazon)
Cr80r clutch cable
Has the bigger cb200 cam chain tensioner with the bigger 3mm center wheel
Cb450 cam chain tensioner idler
Ring gap-.009
Sparkmoto 3 phase stator and reg/rectifier
(Still works great Matt)
Fixed a stay in the cam chain plunger to hold it in place.
Oil plunger is .0045” to wall
Lights are Morimoto
Tires Metzler
Fox Shocks
ARP hardware everywhere
Cato did the seat and if you know you know who he is. Zeke designed it.
Jason Small did the paint and is now doing his art working at Keith Martin’s Big D Dallas!
Zeke was mentored by Keith Martin’s son Jarrett when both of them were sick of their fathers for a few years. They both worked at AMS Ducati Dallas together.
You can NOT remove the stator cover to time the bike and we were in a hurry to get the bike to Fuller so he could take it to SEMA.
It has sat as eye candy in his shop since SEMA 8 years ago.
Zeke was so sick of this bike when we delivered it he never sat nor wanted to ride it. Oh time heals old wounds. I was the sand the irritated the oyster to produce this pearl. Nothing worse than sand in your crack.
All fabrication was done by Fuller and Zeke. Brian Hobbs of Hobbs Racecraft Mentored Zeke when we got stuck. Zeke did all the hard work welding et all. I designed the rear sets and we had a voila moment late one night when Hobbs said, you know what would really be cool? If you hid the rear set shifter lever. So we did.
Now for a new state of tune.
“We are going to 19” K65 90/90-19’ skinny tires.
We may go to another set of wheels and make it as light as possible. Powder Coating is heavy.
The first thing I did was fix the electronic ignition because it was fried.
Then pulled the side case and put a timing light on it. It was retarded one tooth because we decked the head so much and statically timed it but didn’t put a light on it.
Removed the flat slides and put some stock 175 carbs and finally it ran 100% better. Ordered some VM22 Mikuni’s from Treatland TV.
I picked up another Cb 200 for 100 bucks and it has been sitting on the back porch for 10 years. My wife wants it gone. So I am going to take that Cb200 cam out and slot the cam sprocket like we did for our Victoria Build. Time the valve events as they should be. Have always wanted to put the CB 160 PE carbs on it for grins because they are 22mm and the intakes are longer. May do that to compare to the VM’s
You cannot put long enough intakes on this to make the flatslides streetable. This is what I learned from building the Bultaco Dragbike. TM24’s should be on 125-150cc’s not 90cc. When I ran this by ChatGPT it said to me, “You apparently didn’t listen to the guys in your forum.”
Hey they looked cool so did the cam ear from the cb160. Fuller said he just wants to tool around on it and he says it is too F’n loud. I fired it up the day after the 4th for my neighbors who didn’t quit shooting fireworks until 4 am. Bahahahha!
I have rewired the bike to relocate the battery under the bike for the battery box Zeke made. We had it in the head lamp just shoved in there.
Hope all are well. Cheers from Texas
Here are the current specifications for the engine build.
Zooid is 188 cc’s
Cb200 head decked .090” with drillled out oil journal
Cb160 cam sucking wheezing like it has asthma and not enough duration
.032” copper head gasket
.016” copper base gasket
Dyna S
Bore 54
Stroke 41
Gasket bore 54.79
Combustion chamber -15cc
Piston crown Akunar hi speed -5cc
Piston deck -.008 in the whole
Piston to head .040”
Plugs D8HA
Chain 428
TM 24 Mikuni flatslides asking “why in the hell did you put me on this bike.”
Compression- 8.6-1.
Piston to wall .002”
Piston to head. .040”
Honda shorty competition lever set from 4-1
Xl75 brake cable (Amazon)
Cr80r clutch cable
Has the bigger cb200 cam chain tensioner with the bigger 3mm center wheel
Cb450 cam chain tensioner idler
Ring gap-.009
Sparkmoto 3 phase stator and reg/rectifier
(Still works great Matt)
Fixed a stay in the cam chain plunger to hold it in place.
Oil plunger is .0045” to wall
Lights are Morimoto
Tires Metzler
Fox Shocks
ARP hardware everywhere
Cato did the seat and if you know you know who he is. Zeke designed it.
Jason Small did the paint and is now doing his art working at Keith Martin’s Big D Dallas!
Zeke was mentored by Keith Martin’s son Jarrett when both of them were sick of their fathers for a few years. They both worked at AMS Ducati Dallas together.
You can NOT remove the stator cover to time the bike and we were in a hurry to get the bike to Fuller so he could take it to SEMA.
It has sat as eye candy in his shop since SEMA 8 years ago.
Zeke was so sick of this bike when we delivered it he never sat nor wanted to ride it. Oh time heals old wounds. I was the sand the irritated the oyster to produce this pearl. Nothing worse than sand in your crack.
All fabrication was done by Fuller and Zeke. Brian Hobbs of Hobbs Racecraft Mentored Zeke when we got stuck. Zeke did all the hard work welding et all. I designed the rear sets and we had a voila moment late one night when Hobbs said, you know what would really be cool? If you hid the rear set shifter lever. So we did.
Now for a new state of tune.
“We are going to 19” K65 90/90-19’ skinny tires.
We may go to another set of wheels and make it as light as possible. Powder Coating is heavy.
The first thing I did was fix the electronic ignition because it was fried.
Then pulled the side case and put a timing light on it. It was retarded one tooth because we decked the head so much and statically timed it but didn’t put a light on it.
Removed the flat slides and put some stock 175 carbs and finally it ran 100% better. Ordered some VM22 Mikuni’s from Treatland TV.
I picked up another Cb 200 for 100 bucks and it has been sitting on the back porch for 10 years. My wife wants it gone. So I am going to take that Cb200 cam out and slot the cam sprocket like we did for our Victoria Build. Time the valve events as they should be. Have always wanted to put the CB 160 PE carbs on it for grins because they are 22mm and the intakes are longer. May do that to compare to the VM’s
You cannot put long enough intakes on this to make the flatslides streetable. This is what I learned from building the Bultaco Dragbike. TM24’s should be on 125-150cc’s not 90cc. When I ran this by ChatGPT it said to me, “You apparently didn’t listen to the guys in your forum.”
Hey they looked cool so did the cam ear from the cb160. Fuller said he just wants to tool around on it and he says it is too F’n loud. I fired it up the day after the 4th for my neighbors who didn’t quit shooting fireworks until 4 am. Bahahahha!
I have rewired the bike to relocate the battery under the bike for the battery box Zeke made. We had it in the head lamp just shoved in there.
Hope all are well. Cheers from Texas
Don't forget that a 200 has one extra tooth on the crank gear and 2 more on the cam. That gives you two possible solutions. Rebuild the crank with a CB200 center section OR modify a CB160 cam gear to work on a CB200 camshaft which you send to Megacycle to get their mild street grind. That is the best grind for that motor. Next, get some 54mm high dome pistons to get compression up where it needs to be. Personally, I prefer 18" rims. 19 makes he wheel look tall and skinny. We use PW26mm carbs from a CB77 305 on our 160 race bike but for the street a pair of Nibbi 22 or 24mm would probably be better.
Porting the exhausts makes a bigger difference than doing the intakes because the heads are constipated.
And get some mufflers. The set we fitted on the 160 cafe racer are not quiet. They make it sound like a much bigger bike.
Porting the exhausts makes a bigger difference than doing the intakes because the heads are constipated.
And get some mufflers. The set we fitted on the 160 cafe racer are not quiet. They make it sound like a much bigger bike.
Texasstar
Can't is a four letter dirty word
Paid 200 for the cl! Paid 100 for a CB 200