71 Indignant CB175 - Complete (w/ pics)!!!

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

It's been slow going lately. I just don't want to do any of the things I have left to do, i.e. wiring, filling, sanding, painting. Really dragging my feet. The ends of the wiring harness are such a mess, I need to get a junction box to connect everything. Can anyone recommend me a good one? I know I have seen a few builds that had the wiring cleaned up very nicely but I can't find them at the moment.

And in payment here is a mock up of the bike.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Wow, looks great.
I love the blacked out wheels and engine.
What brand and color of paint do you use for the engine?

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Wow, looks great.
I love the blacked out wheels and engine.
What brand and color of paint do you use for the engine?

Hey thanks! The engine paint is VHT High Temp Engine Enamel - SP130 Flat Black.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Hey thanks! The engine paint is VHT High Temp Engine Enamel - SP130 Flat Black.

Thanks. I bought VHT Satin Black for mine, but seing your engine, the flat black is more satin than I expected.
There aren't many bikes that I follow here, but yours is now one of them.
What's left that needs to be done to finish it?
I checked out your website, have you thought about doing the Trans Am Trail on your DR650?
I have a DR350 Adventure Tourer that is going to be my next project to finish after the GN400

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

...I need to get a junction box to connect everything. Can anyone recommend me a good one? I know I have seen a few builds that had the wiring cleaned up very nicely but I can't find them at the moment.

Have you seen this system Motogadget M-unit.
Its pricey at around $300 but a real nice piece.
I considered it for my bike, but there as some issue I would have with using it on my GN, so I didn't.

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

The pictures may lie to you, the engine is pretty flat, though the flat does have a slight sheen to it. You may pick up a can and do some test pieces and see what you like. I have to finish wiring everything up, and though I am a computer engineer, I hate electrical anything...so naturally wiring isn't on my most favorite list. I also have to finish filling and sanding the seat, and then they can be painted.

I am almost ready to try starting the bike, but I have to figure out why the clutch isn't engaging on the shaft, put the exhaust on, and of course...finish wiring. I am so close to done, but still many small things to accomplish.

I have already ridden the TAT on my DR650, back in 2010. http://seekingzero.com/reise/a-dr-journey/ I have since sold my DR, but I really want another one. One of these days. You'll have to post up about your DR350 build somewhere. I'd like to see that.

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Have you seen this system Motogadget M-unit.
Its pricey at around $300 but a real nice piece.
I considered it for my bike, but there as some issue I would have with using it on my GN, so I didn't.

Wow, that is pricey, not sure that's worth it. I found this little unit for $60. Seems pretty reasonable.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

I hear you on the "many small things to accomplish".
I think I'm so close, but then some little thing I didn't think about needs a few hours of work and I realize I'm not as far along as I thought.

Its funny that you don't like the wiring as a computer engineer.
I love electrical work.
I hate machining parts, which you'd probably find hard to believe from my build thread.
But some of those parts I made 3 times until I was happy with them.

I'm going to check your TAT photos, I missed that on my first visit to your site.

I'll race you, let's see who can get their bike done before September's over.
Now get to work.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Wow, that is pricey, not sure that's worth it. I found this little unit for $60. Seems pretty reasonable.

It is pricey, but it makes for such a simplified wiring harness that it almost seems worth it.
It probably cuts the wiring in half, because its got a microprocessor that controls everything and eliminates things like turn signal flashers, starter relays, etc.
Might be the solution for a guy that hates wiring. ;-)

But just the same, the fusebox you posted looks like a nice clean bit of kit as well. So much I might use it for my bike.

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

I hear you on the "many small things to accomplish".
I think I'm so close, but then some little thing I didn't think about needs a few hours of work and I realize I'm not as far along as I thought.

Its funny that you don't like the wiring as a computer engineer.
I love electrical work.
I hate machining parts, which you'd probably find hard to believe from my build thread.
But some of those parts I made 3 times until I was happy with them.

I'm going to check your TAT photos, I missed that on my first visit to your site.

I'll race you, let's see who can get their bike done before September's over.
Now get to work.

How about you come do my electrical, and I'll machine everything for you. Funny thing that I love machining. I made excuses to go hang out in the machine shop in college and make things.

Challenge accepted.

I need mine to look this neat.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

How about you come do my electrical, and I'll machine everything for you. Funny thing that I love machining. I made excuses to go hang out in the machine shop in college and make things.

Sure thing, what's a few thousand miles...
I was the resident guru everyone came to when they needed to use the mill or lathe in college (only because they fired the only professor who knew how to use them).
If I had the proper tools (and dedicated space) I might enjoy machining parts more. I have to be pretty creative with the limited tools I have and need to clean up immediately afterwards or I'll have aluminum shavings tracked through the house.

Challenge accepted.

Game on.
What does the winner get besides the satisfaction of having completed their bike?

I need mine to look this neat.

That's a clean setup. Mine will be that clean. It just takes time and patience. You've got your work cut out for you...too bad you're on the west coast or I would gladly help out.
(But then our challenge would be void.)

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Sure thing, what's a few thousand miles...
I was the resident guru everyone came to when they needed to use the mill or lathe in college (only because they fired the only professor who knew how to use them).
If I had the proper tools (and dedicated space) I might enjoy machining parts more. I have to be pretty creative with the limited tools I have and need to clean up immediately afterwards or I'll have aluminum shavings tracked through the house.

All I have is a drill, and a sawzaw...and I hear you on the metal shavings. That's why my shopvac resides right by my feet under the workbench.

Game on.
What does the winner get besides the satisfaction of having completed their bike?

Satisfaction I suppose, and bragging rights perhaps. 8)

That's a clean setup. Mine will be that clean. It just takes time and patience. You've got your work cut out for you...too bad you're on the west coast or I would gladly help out.
(But then our challenge would be void.)

I would gladly void the challenge to forgo what I am going to end up undertaking. I will be procuring a fusebox to clean up all the wiring, I just can't put it back together like it is.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

I read your TAT RR and enjoyed it very much.
Very thorough and great photos both in quantity and quality.
What was your final conclusion for the best luggage setup for offroad use?

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

I read your TAT RR and enjoyed it very much.
Very thorough and great photos both in quantity and quality.
What was your final conclusion for the best luggage setup for offroad use?

Thanks! For off-road moto luggage, I recommend NO side bags. Its not a matter of if you'll go down, but when, and when you go down the side bags, hard or soft, are going to get destroyed. For my next ride, I will be getting a Giant Loop Bag. A loop bag, maybe a tank bag, and a hard top case if needed. If you can't fit everything you need in all that, then you're trying to bring too much.

 

[misteroddjob]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Thanks for the info.
After reading your TAT RR, I figured you had a solution in mind.

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

This is what I started with...

And this is where I'm at.

I now regret my decision to undertake rebuilding the wiring harness...I just had to drop $70 on a OE connector kit from vintageconnections.com...

 

[eyhonda]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Depending on what you are planning, you can improve the harness. You can delete any function that you are not using (kill switch, turns, etc.) Also, you can remove a lot of the redundant ground points. If all the parts are in the same location, then what you are doing as far as layout is good. If they are no longer in the stock location, wire the harness on the bike so you can optimize all the wire lengths one at a time. Solder and shrink wrap every connector end. Wiring it on the bike also allows hiding a lot of parts and connections. I find that most stator connectors are too short and the big connector is in the open. Make that one longer and put the connector under the seat. I usually re-use all the stock bullet connectors. It's the wire that goes bad before the connector. It gets so that the wire can't be soldered. I unsolder the wire from the bullet end by just heating up the bullet and the wire pulls out. Use dielectric grease before you connect everything back up.

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Thanks for the advice on wiring eyhonda. I tried to reuse the stock connectors but the wires are crimped in and there was no getting them out nicely. It's alright though, the new connections will be nice and I'm sure worth it.

 

[timbutterfield]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Check this link out for a good wiring diagram. This guy ran his wiring through the frame, impressive. Click the picture of the wiring to download it.

http://www.CBCafeRacer.com/electrical.html

 

[SeekingZero]

Re: 71 Indignant CB175 - Finally A Roller!

Check this link out for a good wiring diagram. This guy ran his wiring through the frame, impressive. Click the picture of the wiring to download it.

http://www.CBCafeRacer.com/electrical.html

Awesome, thanks! Maybe I should have got a bunch of multi-pin connectors for some of the wiring... I suppose I still can. We'll see where this goes.