Sakura the Sake Rocket
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JustinLonghorn
No Purple Hearts, No Blue Ribbons
Yep.
PERFECT is the word people are searching for! man that looks great bud! really dig the slammed forks and the big ol wheel, you going to kick the pipes up at all? on mine i am planning on running stretched fish tails may also be a good look for this scoot man... no front fender shave those legs!
really dig it!
really dig it!
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Thanks Gents.
Joe: The pipes here are photochopped in, if you look close you can see how shitty a job I did too haha.
The final version though will look pretty similar. My plan initially is to fab up a crossover box/sound damper that'll live under the swingarm pivot, paint it satin black and tap into the pipes so they look like straights but hopefully don't gouge out anyone's ears. If that won't fly and it may not, I've got some stainless glasspacks that can be slotted in pretty nicely and I don't think they'll look bad. The pipes will be leveled and tucked in a bit as well....like I said, I suck at photochop.
I'll be running 7metalwest ribbed alloy fenders front and rear, however I will be turning the legs smooth; no mounting lugs at all. I'm planning on milling up some floating caliper mounts front and rear, that'll also allow me to set the front up with a little anti-dive as I'd like to protect what travel is left after slamming it. My plan is to mill the front and rear cal-mounts to match so it ties the front to the back, I think that'll look nice.
Joe: The pipes here are photochopped in, if you look close you can see how shitty a job I did too haha.
The final version though will look pretty similar. My plan initially is to fab up a crossover box/sound damper that'll live under the swingarm pivot, paint it satin black and tap into the pipes so they look like straights but hopefully don't gouge out anyone's ears. If that won't fly and it may not, I've got some stainless glasspacks that can be slotted in pretty nicely and I don't think they'll look bad. The pipes will be leveled and tucked in a bit as well....like I said, I suck at photochop.
I'll be running 7metalwest ribbed alloy fenders front and rear, however I will be turning the legs smooth; no mounting lugs at all. I'm planning on milling up some floating caliper mounts front and rear, that'll also allow me to set the front up with a little anti-dive as I'd like to protect what travel is left after slamming it. My plan is to mill the front and rear cal-mounts to match so it ties the front to the back, I think that'll look nice.
Maritime
Over 10,000 Posts
Ha, I read the article on your blog about mufflers or lack there of and I got a kick out of the emgo shorties comment, it is true,it is what I have on my 450 and the suck. Loud, ugly etc. but it is all I could afford as they were new and free and my factory pipes were shot. I hope to get a 2-1 fitted up that also came with the bike but it requires rework of the brake linkage to fit. I was not suprised after the article that you would not be fitting regular strait pipes to this pretty girl.
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Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
no, likely not gonna be straights. Don't get me wrong, I think they look a treat when done right but they just don't perform. No she'll have some kind of functional muffler.
Especially since.....I may sling a sidecar on this bike. Maybe. Big maybe, but it looks like I'm going to fall into a Velorex 560 (body only) that I can frame up pretty simply.
It looks like this:
I'll go look at it this weekend and if it's not rotted out I'll likely snag it. No frame or nifty wheel pontoon but that's ok. It just looks so dang cool....we'll see
Especially since.....I may sling a sidecar on this bike. Maybe. Big maybe, but it looks like I'm going to fall into a Velorex 560 (body only) that I can frame up pretty simply.
It looks like this:
I'll go look at it this weekend and if it's not rotted out I'll likely snag it. No frame or nifty wheel pontoon but that's ok. It just looks so dang cool....we'll see
valvesprung
Over 1,000 Posts
We could just build it up for the KZ400 
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Jordan: Ha, well one never knows what will happen with stuff here at my shop. I have an old gokart chassis and an xs500 engine without a home. Might make an interesting contraption..
VonYinzer: Yeah, it's a long shot. I will want to look at the body and take some measurement but in truth I think it's destined to be slung next to the XS650 along with some balloon tires on 15" rims but who knows.
Maritime: I've liked the idea of a sidehack for a while now, rode a Ural last winter with 2wd....man that thing was a riot and was almost unstoppable. Obviously not the same application but still appeals.
Joe: Yeah IF I pick up the body it'll sit long enough that I sincerely doubt it'll make it onto this bike. In truth I think I'd want just a little more engine in the tug anyway.
VonYinzer: Yeah, it's a long shot. I will want to look at the body and take some measurement but in truth I think it's destined to be slung next to the XS650 along with some balloon tires on 15" rims but who knows.
Maritime: I've liked the idea of a sidehack for a while now, rode a Ural last winter with 2wd....man that thing was a riot and was almost unstoppable. Obviously not the same application but still appeals.
Joe: Yeah IF I pick up the body it'll sit long enough that I sincerely doubt it'll make it onto this bike. In truth I think I'd want just a little more engine in the tug anyway.
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Stoopid intertoobz ate my response!
Tweakin: Thanks Amigo, I think she's starting to shape up!
DP9: Haha....not so well up front at the moment. I've ridden bike slammed this hard with this little front travel, it's.....not horrible....within the scope of what you can do on a bike like this but...no, I'll be working on more front end. It looks as though the 450 sliders are a bit shorter (1") so if I run without the dust boots I *should* be able to eek out right around 3" total as I'll likely raise it an inch from where it is now. I'll run oiled felt rope tucked into the fork tops, works well for keeping dust and crud off the seal you just have to clean it once in a while. I'd love to find some 4" fork boots that won't look smashed but I don't see that happening.
The other suspension change I'm planning for is a swap to an XS650 swingarm. It'll slot right in and will give another 2" wheelbase out back which I think suits this bike. The other thing that'll facilitate is running some neat old eye-eye adjustable Koni shocks I have. They're rebuilt though they need some sprucing up, but they'll bolt in with the 650 arm and won't need to be shortened. Plus they are for a much heavier xs750/850 and the damping is adjustable so in theory is should ride pretty well. I like'm pretty heavily damped anyway and these are neat shocks. The added wheelbase should support the long and low look.
With ~3" up front and it looks like a similar amount of travel out back I'll shoot for 1/2" to 1" of sag and that'll leave 2" of heavily damped travel to deal with what this bike will be presented.
The other change I'm considering....and I really am......is chopping the back off the frame. Specifically, the seat frame portion. I like suspension so I wouldn't be getting ride of that, but.....the seating solutions are kinda bugging me. What I'm thinking about is bending up(or having it done by a pro) a top seat look that follows the shape of a leaf or basically a solo seat with the lowers curved so they meat the swingarm pivot plates then curve up gracefully under the back of the seat to end in some sculpted shock mounts. A seat pan could then be shaped to drop onto that that would have the upholstery on it.
The other possible setup would be simpler, I'd have some tubing bent up in a loop like the rear portion of an Enfield frame with similar interesting rear shock mounts. I'd simply make the top rails angled down such that I could mount a fairly common solo seat without looking like some doofus just parked it on top of flat rails.
In the short term though, the build will go on as is. I have a couple other titled frames so I can tinker on the heavy mods on one of those and transfer everything over when the time is right. In the meantime I still have to turn up a sprocket adapter and source a bearing, make some spacers so the rear wheel aligns etc., on top of everything else it adds up to a mountain of work still needing to be done.
Tweakin: Thanks Amigo, I think she's starting to shape up!
DP9: Haha....not so well up front at the moment. I've ridden bike slammed this hard with this little front travel, it's.....not horrible....within the scope of what you can do on a bike like this but...no, I'll be working on more front end. It looks as though the 450 sliders are a bit shorter (1") so if I run without the dust boots I *should* be able to eek out right around 3" total as I'll likely raise it an inch from where it is now. I'll run oiled felt rope tucked into the fork tops, works well for keeping dust and crud off the seal you just have to clean it once in a while. I'd love to find some 4" fork boots that won't look smashed but I don't see that happening.
The other suspension change I'm planning for is a swap to an XS650 swingarm. It'll slot right in and will give another 2" wheelbase out back which I think suits this bike. The other thing that'll facilitate is running some neat old eye-eye adjustable Koni shocks I have. They're rebuilt though they need some sprucing up, but they'll bolt in with the 650 arm and won't need to be shortened. Plus they are for a much heavier xs750/850 and the damping is adjustable so in theory is should ride pretty well. I like'm pretty heavily damped anyway and these are neat shocks. The added wheelbase should support the long and low look.
With ~3" up front and it looks like a similar amount of travel out back I'll shoot for 1/2" to 1" of sag and that'll leave 2" of heavily damped travel to deal with what this bike will be presented.
The other change I'm considering....and I really am......is chopping the back off the frame. Specifically, the seat frame portion. I like suspension so I wouldn't be getting ride of that, but.....the seating solutions are kinda bugging me. What I'm thinking about is bending up(or having it done by a pro) a top seat look that follows the shape of a leaf or basically a solo seat with the lowers curved so they meat the swingarm pivot plates then curve up gracefully under the back of the seat to end in some sculpted shock mounts. A seat pan could then be shaped to drop onto that that would have the upholstery on it.
The other possible setup would be simpler, I'd have some tubing bent up in a loop like the rear portion of an Enfield frame with similar interesting rear shock mounts. I'd simply make the top rails angled down such that I could mount a fairly common solo seat without looking like some doofus just parked it on top of flat rails.
In the short term though, the build will go on as is. I have a couple other titled frames so I can tinker on the heavy mods on one of those and transfer everything over when the time is right. In the meantime I still have to turn up a sprocket adapter and source a bearing, make some spacers so the rear wheel aligns etc., on top of everything else it adds up to a mountain of work still needing to be done.
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Not much going on, mostly moping about Grams but I have been chipping away at parts and took a few to play with Sakura this afternoon.
Cut&paste from the blog:
I've decided to swap from the CB360 swingarm (+1.5" give or take a little over stock) to an XS650 swingarm for more like 3" of stretch. It's also a better piece over all having much beefier tubes, axle plates and eye-eye shock mounts. I'll be using some neat old adjustable units I pulled off one of my XS850s and rebuilt. Typical spring perch adjustment with a damping 'clicker' at the top that allows a really broad swing in damping. Since the 850 is about 250 pounds heavier than this will be when buttoned up I have little worry about the shocks being up to the more laid over position.
Uuhhh....I think something fell off.
(Something I don't plan to hear when this one is done...haha)
Skinny....
Chubby....
Truth be told I'm already sold on the skinny version but the pic does make an interesting point about relatively subtle changes having a big overall effect on the final product.
Cut&paste from the blog:
I've decided to swap from the CB360 swingarm (+1.5" give or take a little over stock) to an XS650 swingarm for more like 3" of stretch. It's also a better piece over all having much beefier tubes, axle plates and eye-eye shock mounts. I'll be using some neat old adjustable units I pulled off one of my XS850s and rebuilt. Typical spring perch adjustment with a damping 'clicker' at the top that allows a really broad swing in damping. Since the 850 is about 250 pounds heavier than this will be when buttoned up I have little worry about the shocks being up to the more laid over position.
Uuhhh....I think something fell off.
(Something I don't plan to hear when this one is done...haha)
Skinny....
Chubby....
Truth be told I'm already sold on the skinny version but the pic does make an interesting point about relatively subtle changes having a big overall effect on the final product.
