Society Today.....blah!

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tWistedWheelz

BUILT NOT BOUGHT!
Has fidelity and monogamy become extinct? Do the vows of marriage have no meaning? Has it become “cool” to be unfaithful to you partner?

It is in everyone's face at this time that infidelity is running rampant in today's society. Celebrity spouses are being exposed as cheater every day in the media. High profile celebrities who seem to be happily married are popping up as cheaters, some on multiple occasions and with multiple partners. I am not a religious man, but I have strong morals, and I do not approve of infidelity. If a couple begins their relationship openly knowing and approving to a multiple partner term, then that is fine, if that is what they choose. People who do not enter into these term and go behind their partners back to be intimate with another person, well, that is wrong. I could never live with my conscience if I were to cheat on my fiance. I am very disturbed by all the unfaithful celebrities popping up every week. This is just one more negative moral activity being exposed to our youth, setting bad examples. Children who dream of growing up to be a pro football QB, a pro golfer, or a master custom motorcycle builder are seeing their heroes on every media form cheating on their spouses. These people seem to have it all, wealth, beautiful wives, fancy cars and homes, and yet their greed and corruption blossoms. It saddens me to see even more poor morals being exposed and solicited to our youth. Infidelity is just one of the bad examples being divulged to our youth by their heroes and roll models, they also see drug use, violence/abuse to people & animals, and inappropriate social behavior. I am no saint, and did my share of wrong doings, but luckily my parents and others took time to correct my behavior through punishment and lecture. Seeing the events of the world around us, I worry about our future.
 
The thing is that Infidelity is nothing new. These kind of things have always been around just no one spoke about them. Wives and husbands would stand by silently as thier relationships were violated. It was none of anyones business. Now we have a peeping tom mentality where we want to know everyones business and flaws so we can tear them apart.
 
While I agree and I think infidelity is a really a big problem, I don't think it is any more prevalent these days. Just in todays society, we are always being taped, watched and scrutinized. This is due to technology in a big way!

While we do have that whole nosy mentality about us, I think a lot of it has to do with the media. News is an entertainment business these days, not a public service as it used to be. Stations need viewers to in turn watch commercials so that sponsors can pay to keep the station running. Sex sells, period... Unfortunately these days we have grown accustomed to knowing everything about everyone, we have instant access to the internet and the billions of people who use it daily and in today society we feel entitled to it. Which is wrong, but just where society is headed.

I firmly believe in good morals and that most of us have a brain that can decipher between right and wrong. I am in no way a choir boy... but I also believe in bringing your kids up right teaching them right from wrong and then letting them make their own mistakes and administering fair punishment. I have a feeling tWisted, that your kids will turn out just fine, seems like you have a decent head screwed on there! But don't worry, worry only leads self doubt... "pitty tha fool" that makes the mistake and SHOW your kids what a faithful husband is!
 
Dude, just play xBox live and listen to what comes out of these little 10 year old mouths and its enough to really want to kick every kids ass that you see. There's no central focus for this blame, it starts everywhere. The media should NOT be showing all of these stupid ass reality shows that serve to only corrupt young minds, as well as the parents who fail to take responsibility for their childrens actions and understand that they have to pay much closer attention now with technology being so easily accessible by them. Obviously not every kid and every parent are at fault, there are a lot of good kids and parents and I applaud them. But seriously, society is beginning to avoid it's responsibility to itself and is getting into a terrible habit of placing blame elsewhere instead of realizing that the fault is all it's own. I agree with you man, it's frustrating and sad.
 
We're not wired to stay with one person our entire lives, we're meant to procreate as much as we can to pass on our genetic material to as many as possible. However, like all morals, society has dictated that monogamy is the correct course, it's a struggle of wills for all of us. Some of us can resist the urge others cannot.

It's nothing new, the only new thing is the data that's recorded, texts, emails, voicemail, twitter etc. There is no escaping your secrets in the digital age.
 
When did Jesus come into your soul Twisted? What does it matter if someone else fucks around on their spouse? You have every right to hold yourself to higher standard and absolutely NO right to judge the standards of other people. It's their business. Infidelity has ALWAYS been around and always will be due the nature of the instincts ingrained in our genetic memory.
Having said that I've been completely faithful to my wife and always will be. But where do you come off with this high-handed southern-baptist shit?
Also... does this mean I should cancel the lesbian hooker twins I've booked for your bachelor party??? ;)
 
Society is fucked. Grab a lifeboat now. I would love to see and help enact a change, but I feel like its almost too far gone. That doesnt meen Im not going to try and make it better, but like I said, Ill have my lifeboat ready for when it all goes down for good. The real problem IMO? Most people suck. Always have. Now theres just a lot more of em. Greed, bigotry, hatred, violence... Its all wired into our heads. Survival instincts gone haywire. Untill we figure out a way to change human nature, we are all screwed. Especially those of us (and I think 99% of you guys and gals fit into this category) who seem to have evolved past being fucking apes. We are really SOL. So is the way of the world though. Every man for themselves. That may all seem very negative... Because it is. Its a dark place out there, unless you look for the light.

Im not really going to comment on the infidelity issue too much. Things happen. Im not saying its right. Just saying, every situation is different. If you want someone other than your SO, than leave if you cant keep it in check. Nothing wrong with your feelings changing, just try not to be a dick about it.
 
My view has nothing to do with religion. It is not a matter of religion, rather a matter of peoples feelings. I would never want to do some action that may bring physical or emotional pain to someone I love. I also don't believe that it is mother nature driving us to multiple partners, there are several animal species who mate for life with only one partner. It has also been observed that some of the life mating species will actually starve themselves to death after the passing of their mate.
 
Fuck no... twins are a gift from God himself! ;D ;D ;D

I agree that it is personal... I don't agree with the morals of the guy cheating, but Like Alex said, it really isn't my business. Now when the media plasters some cheating ass all over the nightly news then it becomes my problem and for that I blame the media... But there is a solution for that too, and it comes in the form of a remote that I can turn off if I like.


Really it comes down to me SHOWING my kids what a good husband is and being the role model that they look up to. Every parent should be their Kids hero, plain and simple... if you are not, than you are doing something wrong.
 
Good points dakine. I have some much younger cousins (like 25 years younger) who are awesome little humans. Because their rents made sure of it. I also have some little cousins who are dicks. Because their rents made sure of it.

People want what people want. No matter how happily married or whatever you are, at some point you have looked at that hot little waitress chick at the bar and thought, "man... what I would give..." But ya dont. Why not? You made a deal. I bet everyones wives all see that good lookin guy at the local coffee shop, or wgerever and think the same thing. But do nothing. Wanting nad having are two different things. At the point you make the decision to go from want to have is the testing point. I have been cheated on. And in all honesty, I didnt really care as much as some would think I should have. I mean, I left the girl, but we were still friends. I was bummed sure. I wished she would have told me that she had feelings for someone else, but I wasnt mad. Shit happens. She wanted to be with someone else. Ok. No big deal. The soul wants what it wants. I cant be mad at someone because of how they felt. Again, I do think she should have said something before hand though. Treat the one your with with respect. If you want to go fuck around... COOL BEANS, just dont expect them to be there when your done. Thats the worst, when people do that shit, and still expect the SO to be with them. That makes you a real asshole.
 
One more thing Alex, you are right, it is not my business, nor do I want it to be.....but the media plasters it everywhere I look. Now like dakine said I could turn off the TV and not pick up that news paper, but the youth of America does not turn it off. The media is the problem, but when you boil it down, society is the problem, media exploits the stories because society want to see it. Advertisers know it, and they will pay the media to place their ads in those programs! I am just concerned of the problems the digital age has brought. While I love that knowledge and information runs wild and free, and is easily accessible, the problem is that not all of it is positive knowledge and information! I cant control that! Dakine is right about my children too, I will spend the time and do the right things to create examples for them. But there are many parents out there who don't care! Some too young to understand parenthood, some too drugged out for it, some just don't care, and some who just don't know how to be a good parents because they lacked an example from their parental figures. Its scary shit!

I am just bored at work, and thought this would be a nice topic to discuss with you guys, as I feel the most of you who I converse with here seem to be intelligent enough to have a nice conversation on daily topics with.
 
There are multiple problems here:

Stupid people are not only protected on a level previously unrealized, they are allowed to procreate and breed even stupider people. This is bad.

The media is no longer held to a higher standard, and any and all trash they feel is noteworthy gets published. This is because for whatever reason we as a society think that free speech encompasses whatever unsubstantiated swill the "press" wants to put out there. I know its just me, but if I were famous and some asshat stalked me night and day taking pictures he or she would end up in a ditch in Kansas, and I would offer a reward for every paparrazi camera layed before me.

Lastly, few of the "educated" among us no longer seek to actually better peoples lives by teaching them values or how to make a decent living. We have entire organizations out there devoted to teaching the dregs of society how to bilk the system and live better than honest, hardworking folk. I know, its an old-fashioned belief but I HONESTLY feel like if you dont work, you dont eat. Be stupid and starve or work your ass off and eat. Personal choice, personal consequences.
 
Show me one society that has not failed in the history of man that the root cause for the collapse was not moral decay.

I also agree, we are doomed to repeat history and take our turn swirling down the crapper.

I'm just sayin'. :-*
 
Hit it right on the head... scary shit indeed... dumb shit parents make me mad... I am not a parent yet, and I plan on waiting until I am ready. I know sometimes parenthood sneaks up on you, but what most people don't realize is that as soon as you have a kid, everything stops being about you... I don't care who you are, the only thing that should matter from that point on is your child. Not saying spoil the little shit, but for you, your priorities, your life is all put on hold for that kid and you make sacrifices.


I too enjoy the thoughts of the guys on this board... while we don't always agree, for some reason I feel we have stumbled on the one internet forum where there seems to be an abundance of common sense... that is rare these days. Thanks Twisted for the good topics lately, they have helped break up the mundane day to day work here!
 
im with you twisted, although we know that with time the people around us will probably only get worse and forget what good morals and values are, it is still surprising to see how so many people see marriage now a day, they lose all respect for the commitment and significance of it, and the worse part is that many times children suffer the consequences of their parents actions. i personaly have seen this happen to family members, like uncles, aunts, cousins etc.. its a mest up cycle, and its unfortunate but what can you do, it is what it is..

But to each their own, while we all may not have the same point of view 100% of the way on certain things, one thing we do have is respect for each others beliefs and opinions.
i know sometimes subjects like this can be a little touchy, but lets try to not judge, and be respectful. im not saying anyone is being opposite, just thought id throw it out there to help keep the peace.lol ;D ;)
 
ahahaha... I watched that the other night! So fucking funny...

I wanna play EASports Tiger woods 11 ;D
 
I'm down with Brandon on this one. I've done lots of shitty things in my life but I've always drawn the line on cheating. Even in my younger drunken whore stage of life I always had the decency to break up with someone before going after the next girl I'd had my eye on. Better to be an asshole up front than go behind someones back and just be a bigger asshole in the process. I've even told some of my best friends straight up that they were fucked in the head when they got back together with girls who'd cheated on them and I always turned out to be right in the end. It may be strange but that is the one rule I hold higher than most others and my wife damn well knows it. ;)
 
noahdog said:
It may be strange but that is the one rule I hold higher than most others and my wife damn well knows it. ;)
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I personally think that just means you are a normal, decent guy. I am no saint, and especially when it comes being a little whorebag... but why go through the drama of cheating? If things really are that bad or you want someone else enough to act on it, breaking up should be the easier decision.

Obviously kids change that situation and as bad as marriages can be, you gotta try for the kids! Even if you hate your SO, if you have kids together you gotta try and make it work for their sake.
 
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