"the Mooch"

J-Rod10

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Seeing articles that have them at 1, with 13+%, one at 10, at 9+%, and a few in between.

Point being, they bring in a ton of money. They shouldn't be having issues like this.

They keep saying desalinization is too expensive. You have no water, though. Might want to consider spending a few bucks on it, when you have ocean for the entirety of your state line.

Meanwhile, San Fran is estimated to spend $305M on 7,499 known homeless people this year. A twinge over $40K a pop. More than a good many people gross a year, much less take home. What does the city get in return? To hire more people to clean the literal tons of shit off the streets.
 

stroker crazy

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a personal story that some may find interesting: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/08/13/stephen-miller-is-an-immigration-hypocrite-i-know-because-im-his-uncle-219351
 

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J-Rod10

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We should find out the outcome of the Manafort trial by the end of the week.

Homeboy very well may walk.

Gates told the jury he stole a ton of money from Manafort. His CPA told them that Gates provided all the info for Manafort's taxes. The bank employee told them they knew the loan, for $16M, was questionable, and was questioned, but the CEO of the bank pushed it through hoping for a job in the White House.

Then again, maybe he doesn't walk.
 

carnivorous chicken

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Waiting on the Manafort decision, but it doesn't look good for him when his lawyers' defense is essentially "you were looking for other stuff and uncovered millions of dollars of corruption, so why are we even here?"

Another week for the books though, that's for sure. Trump strips Brennan of his clearance. Weeks ago the administration claimed it was because he was profiting from it, now Trump declares its essentially political payback.

And perhaps the saddest element is waiting for the release of a tape that has the president using racial epithets, and witnessing a debate over whether that will help him or hurt him -- with both being entirely possible. That kind of shit has gotten people banned from this site, but it might just be OK language for the president. Amazing. And I'm guessing few people doubt that he actually uses that word in private -- or on the set of his TV show. Incredible.

Jared Kushner is being sued by tenants of a building he owned as most of the rent controlled occupants were put under miserable conditions for months at a time.
 

carnivorous chicken

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Officially it was postponed. Hopefully that means cancelled.

Forgot something. The Queen of Soul died yesterday. It wasn't unexpected, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Aretha Franklin's music and life were amazing, and she should be seen as an American treasure. Trump barely acknowledged her although he emphasized that she worked for him -- which is a little spurious, but revealing. The way he talks about women and people of color in general is revealing. It seems there's been a shift from his defenders saying "he's not racist" to "it's Ok for him to be racist."
 

farmer92

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carnivorous chicken said:
Officially it was postponed. Hopefully that means cancelled.

Forgot something. The Queen of Soul died yesterday. It wasn't unexpected, but that doesn't make it any less sad. Aretha Franklin's music and life were amazing, and she should be seen as an American treasure. Trump barely acknowledged her although he emphasized that she worked for him -- which is a little spurious, but revealing. The way he talks about women and people of color in general is revealing. It seems there's been a shift from his defenders saying "he's not racist" to "it's Ok for him to be racist."

If it’s okay for the president then it must be okay for everyone else to be racist, right? Right?

Slippery slopes.
 

stroker crazy

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“Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”

Retired Navy Adm. William McRaven
 

carnivorous chicken

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The President has been implicated in a crime that is an impeachable offense. This thread has taken some interesting turns, although there don't seem to be any full-throated Trump supporters sticking around. There certainly are still in the US -- the surreal rally in a small town in West Virginia where he rallied his supporters to chant "lock her up" within hours after one of his deputies was found guilty of fraud and another pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations. Like her or not, more than $100 million was spent trying to prosecute Hillary Clinton and nothing stuck. So far six Americans and one Dutchman have been accused and found or pleaded guilty to charges, and 26 Russians remain charged. And yet it appears that plenty of Americans believe that there is some kind of vast conspiracy playing out against an innocent Trump.

Arguments about a strong economy or "Trump being Trump" -- still valid enough to look the other way? There was a variety of things that led to his presidency, but people who supported this person needed to either agree with or get over some pretty virulent and toxic stuff -- accusations of philandering and sexual assault, racist statements, personal attacks, dubious business practices, the list goes on. These were the kind of things that people opposed to him pointed out during the nomination process and during the campaign. I heard an argument against impeaching the president because it would only serve to divide the country further, yet it's hard to imagine a more divided country than it is already now, and it would be a blow against the law and the constitution were people to argue that he should get a pass because of dividedness. People supported Nixon right up until the last minute -- and the parallels, even in presidential discourse, are interesting -- but one would be hard pressed to find anyone today who would argue that Nixon shouldn't have stepped down because it would be divisive.

And yet... who knows. A Republican controlled legislature that hasn't shown much spine won't help. Midterm elections might switch one or both houses. It seems like a process that has been grinding away for the entire term is nearing completion, but it's felt that way before as well.

It just continues to seem surreal.
 

datadavid

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Would be so cool if he walked. The squeal of butthurt asswipes might be loud enough to end the world. Or if he gets locked up trumpers will unleash a civil war that lasts for 100 years. Then we will start speaking russian here. And everyone will forget the World Bully ever existed.
 

J-Rod10

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I think a lot of people don't really care about Manafort, because it had nothing to do with the Russia investigation. It was from 2005-2014.

Cohen, we'll see how that plays out.

Obama's campaign was fined $375,000 in 08 for violating campaign finance law. Obviously, some differences. We'll see how it plays out. Likely a fine.
 

carnivorous chicken

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J-Rod10 said:
I think a lot of people don't really care about Manafort, because it had nothing to do with the Russia investigation. It was from 2005-2014.

Cohen, we'll see how that plays out.

Obama's campaign was fined $375,000 in 08 for violating campaign finance law. Obviously, some differences. We'll see how it plays out. Likely a fine.
I think people do care about Manafort, except for people who are going to stick with Trump -- or swallow bile and give him the benefit of the doubt -- until the ship sinks. The president has surrounded himself with criminals, I mean "the best," you know, to "drain the swamp." And the president has been implicated in the crime.

And you're going to try to compare the Obama campaign being fined for not notifying the FEC for $1000 or more donations in 48 hours, a violation that almost everyone agreed at the time was relatively minor and had no influence on the election, to paying hush money to a porn star in order to influence the campaign, then lying about it repeatedly? That's the definition of Whataboutism.

I have to be honest, I just don't get it -- although I think a choice of sources for news definitely is a factor.
 

J-Rod10

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Tax evasion and such is one of those things. The federal government, the IRS, didn't know about it. In Manaforts case, for over a decade. How would anyone else?

I did get a laugh out of one of Cohen's charges. Failed to report the $30,000 profit made on a purse he sold online.
 
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