JETTING SOLVED! Could this be real?....and WORK?

Thats putting a lot of faith in somebody thats never rid'n "your" bike... I find it hard to believe that they can dial your bike in by a brief description of it...?

Really man? come on... you know better

This reminds me of when my son asks me a question he already knows the answer to. But is hoping that today, when the sun rose, things would be different. And they're not... blue is still blue, and falling down still hurts. haha
 
Yeah, Thats what I have been thinking louie. I have to say though, they offer a gaurantee, so maybe they know something we don't, or they dont mind loosing money on shipping. I am still on the fence really, but think it is impossible for them to tune a bike just off of the info they ask, there are simply too many variables.

Anyway, if someone gives it a try, let me know what the results are.
 
They have a guarantee. But it, install it, see how it goes... and if its not right then take it out, clean it up, repackage it and send it back.

- boingk
 
Why? when you can take your data and figure what jets you need to achieve desired results. And just go pic them up @ a shop...?

Jets for dummies=rider whom shouldn't own a carbureted bike


Not trying to be argumentative... Just seems lazy

Besides, I'm sure your local shop could use your business. haha
 
I just rejeted my bike this morning. Cost me $24 bucks for the main jeans and $20 slow jeans. Bike runs great now. Better then ever. Idles better too. I just sized up a little because of the 4-1 header, pipe and air filter spung pods.

Im a happy guy. Great to have my bike for the holiday weekend again after its been sitting for months. :D
 
Read the guarantee carefully...
you can cancel within 7 days of ordering or return any purchase in unused and good condition within 7 days from receipt and obtain a full refund of the price you paid
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My interpretation of the advert was that they will take all your input and work out a closer starting point for your bike that you could. If they have the experience and a large enough database, they can probably get close.

Final set up and tuning still requires dyno time.
 
teazer said:
My interpretation of the advert was that they will take all your input and work out a closer starting point for your bike that you could. If they have the experience and a large enough database, they can probably get close.

Final set up and tuning still requires dyno time.
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I agree, they could probably get you a good basic starting point that would require final tuning but you do not need a dyno, Brother Teazer we need to come up with a better way to try and help some of these folks as a lot of them are not going to have or want access to a dyno and will not necessarily understand, or want to understand, the overtechnical setups and theory that some people run. In reading a lot of posts here on DTT I think most members are looking for more of just a simple basic street setup.
 
My best guess is there like JD jet kits for the dirt bikes, they give you 1 or 2 sets of slow jets, 1 or 2 sets of needles, and 2 to 4 sets of main jets with instructions on how to jet your bike. i think the real idea of this is so people dont have to track down all the proper jets, There definately not meant to be an out of the box cure all one size fits all perfect jetting solution.

The same, parts can be had from dealers and or companies like Sudco http://www.sudco.com/, or if your lucky like me and live in the Toronto area, try Winners Circle http://www.winnerscirclecanada.com/contact.php
 
IDK...? None of my 35-40 bikes have ever seen a dyno.... They've all ran strong. And stock jetting is a great place to start...? run, check plug, adjust... run, check plug,ride, adjust...

This is only rocket science if you make it that way...

Teazer is obviously concerned about Every inkling of power available. I on the other hand wouldn't be able to tell if my bike was only putting out 33 1/3 hp of the available 34

Before there was all the bull-shizzle diagnoses machines, ya had know how, and a drag or test strip(ie. your neighborhood)

Shit, most towns dont even have an available Dyno...
 
Swapmeet Louie said:
IDK...? None of my 35-40 bikes have ever seen a dyno.... They've all ran strong. And stock jetting is a great place to start...? run, check plug, adjust... run, check plug,ride, adjust...

This is only rocket science if you make it that way...

Teazer is obviously concerned about Every inkling of power available. I on the other hand wouldn't be able to tell if my bike was only putting out 33 1/3 hp of the available 34

Before there was all the bull-shizzle diagnoses machines, ya had know how, and a drag or test strip(ie. your neighborhood)

Shit, most towns dont even have an available Dyno...
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+1 Brother Swapmeet Louie! I could not have said it any better...I am a firm believer in track testing as well and none of the various types of equipment I have raced has ever been on a dyno and they have all consistently won races.
 
Swapmeet Louie said:
IDK...? None of my 35-40 bikes have ever seen a dyno.... They've all ran strong. And stock jetting is a great place to start...? run, check plug, adjust... run, check plug,ride, adjust...

This is only rocket science if you make it that way...

Teazer is obviously concerned about Every inkling of power available. I on the other hand wouldn't be able to tell if my bike was only putting out 33 1/3 hp of the available 34

Before there was all the bull-shizzle diagnoses machines, ya had know how, and a drag or test strip(ie. your neighborhood)

Shit, most towns dont even have an available Dyno...
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+1 again for Swapmeet Louie! I agree joeyputt!

This is the way it was done and the way I still do it! It also irks me when people say what a good tuner someone is and they're refering to some guy with a dyno. Granted, the guy is no idiot but take the dyno away and let's see how good he really is! I'll go heads up against him anytime!

I build my own, I tune my own, I'll be glad to give anyone a run for their money!
 
bbqb4racin said:
+1 again for Swapmeet Louie! I agree joeyputt!

This is the way it was done and the way I still do it! It also irks me when people say what a good tuner someone is and they're refering to some guy with a dyno. Granted, the guy is no idiot but take the dyno away and let's see how good he really is! I'll go heads up against him anytime!

I build my own, I tune my own, I'll be glad to give anyone a run for their money!
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+1 again for Brother Bbqb4racing and Brother Swapmeet Louie! I worry about racing guys like you more than anyone else! In my own personal experiences the textbook theory dyno racers have always been easy to out run!
 
joeyputt said:
+1 again for Brother Bbqb4racing and Brother Swapmeet Louie! I worry about racing guys like you more than anyone else! In my own personal experiences the textbook theory dyno racers have always been easy to out run!
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Ive gotta ask... Whats with all this "Brother" Are you Hulk Hogan or something?
 
Sounds like a hyped up jet kit to me.
Kit Includes

* Main Jets
* Needle Adjusters
* Nylon Spacers
* Drill Bits for:
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That is all that is actually in the kit. Everything else looks like tuning info that could be found on the net.
* Slide Hole Modification (not an actual item, only mod info)
* Idle Mixture Modification (not an actual item, only mod info)
* Slide Spring Modification (not an actual item, only mod info)
* Bike Specs (not an actual item, only info you have in your shop manual)
* Carb Schematic (not an actual item, only info you have in your shop manual)
* Carb Synchronizer Tool (how to build for $5) (not an actual item, only info you have in the $50 mod thread)
* Step by step instructions with photos customized to your bike. (not an actual item, only info)
* Installation Support - If you need assistance with installation or have a question we are there for you. (good luck dude, we don't know?)
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I'd rather buy the jets myself.
 
Yep, you absolutely can get close enough without a dyno and there are probably a few people on this forum than can do that in less than a full day with a box of jets.

On the other hand you can get the jetting spot on on a dyno in less than an hour as a rule.

Jetting is rarely "perfect" and getting that last 1/2 HP can take a long time if you go searching for it. But it's possible to get pretty damn close to the right answer in 30-60 minutes on a dyno. It's just a tool. I like my jetting to be close enough but I rarely change jets for changes in weather even at the track because that's rarely the limiting factor. It's the age old law of diminishing returns.

In this case. it's just a jet kit after all and they claim that they know what they are doing. None of us so far has tested that claim, so it's all hypothesis. Anyone that posts an answer on the theory or practice of jetting that has not had a bike on a dyno probably has almost as much to learn as I do and I'm always learning and have been for 4 years or more of playing with bikes.

For example:
I have learned that I can get jetting pretty close on the street with a big box of jets and enough time and road, and that I can get much closer much quicker on the dyno. I also learned that bikes that I thought feel great and crisp etc are sometimes not even close in reality and are much nicer/faster/economical after a trip to the dyno.

Is a dyno mandatory? Hell no. Is it a smart investment? Absolutely.
 
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