Sleek & Sexy CL360
- Thread starter SausageMahoney
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OK-- so I've had this bike into the shop twice now to get her up and running strong. Had an issue with the clutch, and some other little kinks. Put some JC Whitney baffles on the pipes both to help with the noise level and because how the pipes were sitting... I would've blistered the shit out of my legs. I'll get some photos of the new baffles here in a bit.
Finally got to ride it for the first time yesterday, and was feeling great. However, I don't think it's 100% dialed in yet, and I've got some little issues that some of the motor guys could help me with...
I'm getting a lot of rattling/clicking from the engine case, sounds like it's a loose cam chain. It's pretty loud. In fact, while it was in the shop... the mechanic said the cam chain was very loose and that he adjusted it for me, but the sound is still here.
The other issue is that I'm getting a lot of steam/smoke from the breather tube that comes out of the top of the crank case. It looks more like steam cause it evaporated pretty quickly, but Jordan said he's getting a lot of oil & fuel smell when he rides behind me.
Should I be concerned and address these issues? Or do I just have a smoky & rattly bike?
Finally got to ride it for the first time yesterday, and was feeling great. However, I don't think it's 100% dialed in yet, and I've got some little issues that some of the motor guys could help me with...
I'm getting a lot of rattling/clicking from the engine case, sounds like it's a loose cam chain. It's pretty loud. In fact, while it was in the shop... the mechanic said the cam chain was very loose and that he adjusted it for me, but the sound is still here.
The other issue is that I'm getting a lot of steam/smoke from the breather tube that comes out of the top of the crank case. It looks more like steam cause it evaporated pretty quickly, but Jordan said he's getting a lot of oil & fuel smell when he rides behind me.
Should I be concerned and address these issues? Or do I just have a smoky & rattly bike?
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
If you haven't cracked the case, it may just be a good idea to take a look in there. Honda had the right idea using polymer rollers for the timing chains on their twins, however they didn't age well nor do they hold up. Chances are good that you will need to replace portions of the tension/roller system and possibly the cam chain itself. Could be that it's just stretched with age and the adjuster has bottomed out.....
worth a look t osave the motor in a nice looking bike.
worth a look t osave the motor in a nice looking bike.
jason teamshralp
Been Around the Block
even if your mechanic adjusted the cam tensionor he probably didn't look at the wheel to see if there was anything left. Mine was completly fubar. I'd take the adjuster off and then look to see if there is a wheel, with a grove in the middle for the chain to run on. I believe you can see it through the hole when the tensioner is removed. If you do need to replace it or the cam chain you will have to split the cases, i believe?. because it doesn't have a master link. this last part may be incorrect.
Also if the smoke is white and not really steam that could be water burning off from the oil or exhaust. Also check to make sure your battery conections aren't acrhing, mine did that and there was smoke coming out of the "under seat area" but it turned out to be the battery.
Hope this works, and give me a message and i'll come ride with ya if i'm off work.
Also if the smoke is white and not really steam that could be water burning off from the oil or exhaust. Also check to make sure your battery conections aren't acrhing, mine did that and there was smoke coming out of the "under seat area" but it turned out to be the battery.
Hope this works, and give me a message and i'll come ride with ya if i'm off work.
boomshakalaka
Over 1,000 Posts
Im almost 100% that you can change the cam chain on the 350 without splitting the cases, however I am not sure if this holds true for the 360.
Useful Idiot
Been Around the Block
attach the new chain to the old chain with some wire, rotate the motor til you get the entire chain on. discard the old chain.
easy peasy
easy peasy
Sweet, thanks guys.
I've been chatting with my mechanic and he's 110% sure he tightened up the cam chain and double checked it, and that everything looked to be in good repair. He's cool enough that he said I could bring it back in this week and he'd go back through to double check free of charge, and I'll make sure he looks at the wheel as well. I'll get that rattle taken care of here soon but sounds like I shouldn't worry about parking the bike as it's not going to destroy my engine-- it's just a nuisance at this point.
@malloy-- most of the black paint was Duplicolor Engine Enamel high heat in semi-gloss.
@Swagger-- yeah, saw that and I'm super stoked! I'm pretty excited to get my bike posted right next to Shinya Kimura, who's one of my favorite builders.
I've been chatting with my mechanic and he's 110% sure he tightened up the cam chain and double checked it, and that everything looked to be in good repair. He's cool enough that he said I could bring it back in this week and he'd go back through to double check free of charge, and I'll make sure he looks at the wheel as well. I'll get that rattle taken care of here soon but sounds like I shouldn't worry about parking the bike as it's not going to destroy my engine-- it's just a nuisance at this point.
@malloy-- most of the black paint was Duplicolor Engine Enamel high heat in semi-gloss.
@Swagger-- yeah, saw that and I'm super stoked! I'm pretty excited to get my bike posted right next to Shinya Kimura, who's one of my favorite builders.
brewtown16
what, me worry?
Swagger said:
its also on a few racer blogs too....
There are some curse words I'd like to articulate right now, but I'll refrain.
Spit oil (or something else slick, brownish and mostly odorless) all over the engine, turned my wrap green, all over my shoes, oil made it onto the back tire and under the seat.
So I rode out to a family thing tonight, with no issues. Noticed some fluid on the front of the bike when I got there, but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Since it was running fine, I thought I could make it home. As smoke and steam came off of the front of the hot engine as I sat at a light, I figured I'd pull over to inspect again. This is what I found.
So am I parked for the summer or is this a moderately simple fix?
Words can not explain my frustration.
Spit oil (or something else slick, brownish and mostly odorless) all over the engine, turned my wrap green, all over my shoes, oil made it onto the back tire and under the seat.
So I rode out to a family thing tonight, with no issues. Noticed some fluid on the front of the bike when I got there, but couldn't figure out where it was coming from. Since it was running fine, I thought I could make it home. As smoke and steam came off of the front of the hot engine as I sat at a light, I figured I'd pull over to inspect again. This is what I found.
So am I parked for the summer or is this a moderately simple fix?
Words can not explain my frustration.
Flugtechnik
My bike is not transportation, it is a respite
That looks like it's above the starter. Did part of your cylinder wall blow out!?!?!? 
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Unfortunately it looks to me like your rattly cam chain beat a hole in your cylinder.
It's a bitch because you'll need to pull it off, but then you need to get your cam chain/tensioner sorted anyway.
That can be brazed/welded though so long as there's not other internal damage that's not shown.
Bummer man.
That bike is just way too f-ing cool to let die now. Get that thing fixed, nab yourself another motor for a full rebuild and keep a good one on hand.
You cna do it man, that bike deserves a fix!
It's a bitch because you'll need to pull it off, but then you need to get your cam chain/tensioner sorted anyway.
That can be brazed/welded though so long as there's not other internal damage that's not shown.
Bummer man.
That bike is just way too f-ing cool to let die now. Get that thing fixed, nab yourself another motor for a full rebuild and keep a good one on hand.
You cna do it man, that bike deserves a fix!
Some more photos. I've been talking with Will today and we'll see what we can figure out. I'm definitely planning to get this addressed.
Flugtechnik
My bike is not transportation, it is a respite
Oooooooo. It looks like Swagger is right. Not good.
Yup. That cam chain wanted some fresh air so it busted right through there.
So I'm pretty impressed with Will @ Poor Bastard. He's gonna put on a new top end free of charge. He's rounding up a new bore, top end gasket kit, cam chain & tensioner... and we're hoping to get the bike in early next week, with completion a few days after that. I think I might tear into the bike a little bit this weekend to address some of the small things I neglected while waiting for the top end to be completed.
Should be good as new here in about a week.
So I'm pretty impressed with Will @ Poor Bastard. He's gonna put on a new top end free of charge. He's rounding up a new bore, top end gasket kit, cam chain & tensioner... and we're hoping to get the bike in early next week, with completion a few days after that. I think I might tear into the bike a little bit this weekend to address some of the small things I neglected while waiting for the top end to be completed.
Should be good as new here in about a week.
