540cc Honda 360 Engine

HA. All that would take would be completely rebuilding the entire bike
 
In spite of what others think, I think this bike is awesome. The engine perfectly level, floating in air, the surrounding framework, the muscular wheels, I think it's perfect.

But really, the only thing that matters is what you think. Since none of us can ride it, our opinions are missing the most important component - how it rides.
 
Yeah, I think so too. It's similar looking to a Ducati frame. Everybody's entitled to their opinion and there are a lot of experts. The final rear shocks are not installed and the front end height can be adjusted some also. The bike is in early stages and hasn't been started or ridden as of yet.

For a little perspective and for comparison here are a couple pictures of a Rickman CR750 Honda that my brother picked up recently. This is a real period early 70's cafe racer. All of the original parts are there and it was purchased from the original owner; the guy that purchased the kit from Rickman in 1974 and built the bike up. I can't wait to get started on this one.
 

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crazypj said:
Nice, restoration to 'original'?

Yes, completely original. The original owner primed over the tank and seat, but the fairing and front fender are the original orange. The tank is perfect inside and the engine turns. It was stored properly in doors. The frame need to be stripped of the original nickel plating, polished, inspected and re plated.
 
cyclhed said:
You can't be serious.

Sorry to come on that harsh man. There are a lot of cool features on it and the craftmanship is very good. The overall thing is just wrong IMHO.

As you're questioning my reasons, here they are;
Remember, i'm only a human being and a serious dick ;)

Forks are to long, tilting the frame and killing the look

Not sure wich way you wanted it to go. drag, cafe, dragracer, chopper.. its all there. pick a winner and stick to the program.

Choice of tyres is rediculous. Not even close to performace setup (wich you're after right? why would you tune an engine so much anyway if it s not for speed...

You build a frame from scratch but forgot to add good rearsets. instead, you bolted pegs to the swinger.

rear brake is waaay to big. small ones are just as efective. you'll only lock it up easier this way. i wont start about the weight of it and the importance of light wheels (centrifugal force)

drag bars and fairing? wtf?

whats with the huuuuuuuuuuuuge intakes? never seen em that long. prolly for a reason?

and lots more, but dinners ready ;)
 
BertJan, I think ou should have specified you were talking about the 540 and not the Rickman ;)
 
Bert Jan said:
whats with the huuuuuuuuuuuuge intakes? never seen em that long. prolly for a reason?

Long intakes are useful for capturing lower waves if pulse tuning. They also help carbs to receive a "steady" signal and can help combat reversion; a useful feature if going with a longer duration cam.
 
I'd suggest that those are probably too long to be effective. Unless they are tapered they will just cause flow restriction.
 
Bert Jan said:
Sorry to come on that harsh man. There are a lot of cool features on it and the craftmanship is very good. The overall thing is just wrong IMHO.

As you're questioning my reasons, here they are;
Remember, i'm only a human being and a serious dick ;)

Forks are to long, tilting the frame and killing the look

Not sure wich way you wanted it to go. drag, cafe, dragracer, chopper.. its all there. pick a winner and stick to the program.

Choice of tyres is rediculous. Not even close to performace setup (wich you're after right? why would you tune an engine so much anyway if it s not for speed...

You build a frame from scratch but forgot to add good rearsets. instead, you bolted pegs to the swinger.

rear brake is waaay to big. small ones are just as efective. you'll only lock it up easier this way. i wont start about the weight of it and the importance of light wheels (centrifugal force)

drag bars and fairing? wtf?

whats with the huuuuuuuuuuuuge intakes? never seen em that long. prolly for a reason?

and lots more, but dinners ready ;)

I guess you haven't read the whole thread which explains the philosophy behind the bike. Also the brakes have been changed since that picture. See above. You obviously have a set of guidelines in your head about what a "cafe racer" should be, it just doesn't fit with what the builders idea of that is. That's OK.

Anyway, moving along...
 
Good point. Why are we using the term "Cafe Racer" when so few are of that style and the rest are a different aesthetic altogether. WHya ren't we calling them Customs or specials or something that's more embracing?
 
I think the primary reason is that the words, "Custom" and "Special", fail to conjure and accurate mental image. Those terms are too generic.
 
teazer said:
Good point. Why are we using the term "Cafe Racer" when so few are of that style and the rest are a different aesthetic altogether. WHya ren't we calling them Customs or specials or something that's more embracing?

Not referring to this build, but "Oddity" is another term that comes to mind...
 
cyclhed said:
I guess you haven't read the whole thread which explains the philosophy behind the bike. Also the brakes have been changed since that picture. See above. You obviously have a set of guidelines in your head about what a "cafe racer" should be, it just doesn't fit with what the builders idea of that is. That's OK.

Anyway, moving along...

nahh.. thats not it really. besides, idid read your whole stroy and replied couple of times regarding the pro/cons heim joint conversation.

Its not that i have a guideline,a set of rules a bike needs to have for that matter. i dont care wich route you take actually. As far as aestehetics (dont know how to spell it) go, i think you;ve missed it. Like i said before, there are a lot of tecnhical plusses on the construction, i just feel its still a mashup of styles. and i dont like that in a bike. i like when a bike shows the builders vision. with your bike, i dont see a vision, just a pile of parts screwed together on a pro level.

Now, i studied art school in the highest degree, so i'm safe to say i know the rules of aestetics.

with all time, money and swet invested... man it could have been ssoooooo much better.... thats all.
 
Please elaborate on "art school in the highest degree" and "the rules of aesthetics".
 
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